HA! got rid of the chrome with my GNOriginally Posted by Indiana_Jones
Should be out riding
HA! got rid of the chrome with my GN
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
The 2nd-most bad arse KBer.
also dropping the ram to 2gb
Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot
The 2nd-most bad arse KBer.
Changing my mobo, dropping to 2gb ram and losing hte 80gig hdd saves me $280. Thanks heaps guys
Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot
Should be out riding
Sweeet
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
Resident Redneck
keep windows away and outta the equation completly. run Linux instead. A good all round linux to start off with is Ubuntu 7.10 (although 8.4 aint far away). Run windows based programs within Wine. Works for me!
Should be out riding
Yeah until you want to run a heavy directx game or a badly built com+ and IE dependant accounting package (like quickbooks)
I like good old debian etch over ubuntu or gentoo for its MAD speed.
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
Freakin' hippy
Save yourself $160 on the case and just stack everything using the crudest framing possible. Salvaged metal strips from the dump - maybe a vertical CD rack bodged to hold your components.
Or everything hung vertically from a horizontal bar.
Everything is naked and if you stack it so the cables and connectors are facing outwards, it just looks the fucking dogs bollocks.
People will think it's much cooler than it really is, nobody sees the insides these days.
Just don't touch the electrical bits
L-Plate Rider
thats an odd choice for a graphics card. i would go for an 8800 gts. and the 8800 sli'd go real fast trust me. memory i am hoping you are talking matched sets of 1 gig pairs. you can start with only 2gig if you want to save money.
also save yourself some grief with the power supply. unless the corsair is free dont pay for it. if you pay 120 now you will have to pay 250 for the thermaltake one you will be buying soon 250+120=370.
now the case you are looking at i understand to be small. this is a problem with modern video cards. and if you do end up with two cards you will end up melting a pc through whatever it is sitting on. before you do anything think about your case and cooling soloution. a bigger case will allow room for air to flow or to install water cooling and the assoc radiators etc. forced air (lot of fans set up to all run in the same direction) or water cooling with vga water blocks and a cpu block. also look at the video cards cooling method mine are setup with external venting heat sinks. i am old school. lots and i means lots of fans all with pretty neons.
now why run direct x 10 video cards, games and a 64bit processor and install xp. vista will let you run your processor at full speed and let you get the most out of the expensive video cards. yes vista is a dog. hell what windows isnt. bill you are a bad man. but i have played with both setups vista will game better right now and will only get better (slighty) as windows does.
shop around to save money. dont skimp on parts. it will bug you when you are replacing stuff. have a look at www.c1com.co.nz often cheap and www.pbtech.co.nz are always stable and helpfull while always being well priced. and its always worth looking at www.nvidia.com if you are thinking about sli'ing video cards
force be with you
Resident Redneck
debian aint too bad, fiddled around with it for a bit but I find Ubuntu based distros the most stable. Currently running geubuntu...or as it is know now OpenGEU. It uses enlightenment over gnome as its desktop and looks good and perform well. I must say Ubuntu is the easiest to use for newbies, and has everything advanced users would want too...Yeah until you want to run a heavy directx game or a badly built com+ and IE dependant accounting package (like quickbooks)
I like good old debian etch over ubuntu or gentoo for its MAD speed.
The 2nd-most bad arse KBer.
The only item that could be of poor quality is the ram. its just first off pricespy.thats an odd choice for a graphics card. i would go for an 8800 gts. and the 8800 sli'd go real fast trust me. memory i am hoping you are talking matched sets of 1 gig pairs. you can start with only 2gig if you want to save money.
also save yourself some grief with the power supply. unless the corsair is free dont pay for it. if you pay 120 now you will have to pay 250 for the thermaltake one you will be buying soon 250+120=370.
now the case you are looking at i understand to be small. this is a problem with modern video cards. and if you do end up with two cards you will end up melting a pc through whatever it is sitting on. before you do anything think about your case and cooling soloution. a bigger case will allow room for air to flow or to install water cooling and the assoc radiators etc. forced air (lot of fans set up to all run in the same direction) or water cooling with vga water blocks and a cpu block. also look at the video cards cooling method mine are setup with external venting heat sinks. i am old school. lots and i means lots of fans all with pretty neons.
now why run direct x 10 video cards, games and a 64bit processor and install xp. vista will let you run your processor at full speed and let you get the most out of the expensive video cards. yes vista is a dog. hell what windows isnt. bill you are a bad man. but i have played with both setups vista will game better right now and will only get better (slighty) as windows does.
shop around to save money. dont skimp on parts. it will bug you when you are replacing stuff. have a look at www.c1com.co.nz often cheap and www.pbtech.co.nz are always stable and helpfull while always being well priced. and its always worth looking at www.nvidia.com if you are thinking about sli'ing video cards
force be with you
Problem with the case is I can't find a big one that I like the look of, and is less than $200.
The 9600 I chose will run crysis on med-high settings by its self. Its good and cheap.
I will re use the 450w psu when I upgrade it in my other pcs.
Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot
Hardcore Biker
Get 4GB of ram. Win32 will use 3.5GB of it, since you have a 512mb graphics card. The 2GB number is the process limit for ram. So although crysis (32 bit) will only use 2GB in it's own process, you'll still have 1.5GB being used for other things.
Don't bother with SLI.
Hardcore Biker
Learn the art of partitioning your hard drivers, and ditch the 80Gb. The only reason to have windows on a different partition is because when it inevitably gets screwed, you want to be able to format it without loosing your important data. And for that you dont need an extra hard drive.
As for saving money and buying lots of hard drives, buy them when you need them, it should take you a while to full the first 500Gb then when you come to buy the second it will be cheaper.
Best Frenemy you could have!
Pretty much spot on... I run with 4gb of ram, end up with 3.5, and I still find I rarely go over 2.5gb usage ish.
A top end 8 series nvidia card will still walk all over a mid level 9 card, so bear that in mind. Just because the first of the 4 numbers is higher doesn't mean it will be immediately faster (I have 2x 7950gt and they still out perform a lot of 8 series cards, except for the top end). If you use multiple monitors (I have 3, hence the dual gfx) forget SLI, it will only run on one monitor, and switches off the others.
As said, use partitioning on the drives, 500GB WD are good $/gb at the mo. Programs and OS on one partition. Install what you need. Only issue is that if you move to raid (as I did over the new year) you will need to rebuild the machine.
Don't have to buy expensive memory unless you o/c, and transcend etc performs fine, and comes with lifetime warranty.
Case. It holds bits, bear in mind cooling and space. Unless you want to show it off, don't bother buying something fancy. I use one of these and I've just run out of space, so I'll get this. Basically, your big issue will probably be the length of the gfx, and the space between the front bays and the rear, as the card plus wiring will need to fit (my issue at the moment, plus the entire front is full)
Really depends how far you think you will build it. I thought my case would be plenty... now its not. Just be careful that you can really blow money away by sinking it into parts.
Not again.......
I second the post about 8800gt 512Mb cards. with palit ones it's only 100 more than the 9600 and when you want to go sli instead of buying 2 new cards you just need to buy another one. I'm running one 8800gt with 2gb RAM (cheap samsung ones) and AMD 3800+ AM2 CPU and it runs crysis 30-50 fps (dips down to 20 at times) on mostly high settings with some mid setting as well at 1280x1024
I have deep pockets. It's just that it's a deep empty pocket...........
Forum whore
Get a Seagate AS SATA drive (500GB HDD with a 32MB cache is)....they're stupidly fast for the money ($170 - 5 year warranty ain't bad either). For backup or additional storage then NAS is the way to go.
The 8400 IS good bang for buck. Not much of a drop in performance with the E6550 though and it's a lot cheaper. Can't really help with the video cards...gaming ain't my thing.
DDR800 is similar in price to 667....wouldn't spend the extra on the 1066 or DDR3. 2GB of DDR2 800 is $60 so why skimp?
If you don't care about looks just get a full sized case...much easier to keep cool. Don't be tempted to save a few bucks with a cheapo mobo....the difference an extra 50 bucks spent there is staggering.
I'd shove on Vista business myself....then you can legally downgrade to XP if you must. You'd be an idiot to actually buy XP at the moment (in a few months you won't be able to anyway) but if you've got a copy lying around then why not. After Vista SP1 and turning off some of the extra bells and whistles the performance difference is negligible. Pity Microsoft didn't just make Vista 64 bit only. Of course you can always become a linux hippy.
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