Making sure your pillion's wearing full gear.

[Edbear]

...Guess the idea is not to come off in the first place.

I kinda like that idea...

[TygerTung]

Those cheapie NEO gloves are pretty good, have had a few crashes while racing and they're still all good!

[yungatart]

Its not just pilions, what about scooter riders too.
I was chatting to a Yr 13 (7th former) last week as we walked throught the car park. He had a helmet in his hand, so I asked him where were his gloves. The response...it's not cold enouhg to need them yet, I'll get some before winter though.
So I took the opportunity to tell him what can happen to his hands in an accident. His g/f insisted that he go and buy gloves immediately.
On Monday, I saw the same student,he informed me he had ben down to the bike shop on Friday and bought gloves. He got knocked off his scoot on Saturday and grazed his gloves quite badly.
He thanked me for my advice and then told me that he'd taken heaps of skin off his elbow though. He'd not worn a jacket of any kind..."cos its not that cold yet"

Aaaargh!
But, nobody had ever explained to him the need for any gear, even when he bought his scooter brand new from a dealer!!

[Disco Dan]

Its not just pilions, what about scooter riders too.
I was chatting to a Yr 13 (7th former) last week as we walked throught the car park. He had a helmet in his hand, so I asked him where were his gloves. The response...it's not cold enouhg to need them yet, I'll get some before winter though.
So I took the opportunity to tell him what can happen to his hands in an accident. His g/f insisted that he go and buy gloves immediately.
On Monday, I saw the same student,he informed me he had ben down to the bike shop on Friday and bought gloves. He got knocked off his scoot on Saturday and grazed his gloves quite badly.
He thanked me for my advice and then told me that he'd taken heaps of skin off his elbow though. He'd not worn a jacket of any kind..."cos its not that cold yet"

Aaaargh!
But, nobody had ever explained to him the need for any gear, even when he bought his scooter brand new from a dealer!!

Even if full riding gear was in a bag attached to every bike thats sold - even made law to only sell bikes/scooters with riding gear, people would not wear it if they did not want too...

...there are still people who don't bother wearing their seatbelt in cars - which comes with every car.

[MSTRS:Me]

Even if full riding gear was in a bag attached to every bike thats sold - even made law to only sell bikes/scooters with riding gear, people would not wear it if they did not want too...

...there are still people who don't bother wearing their seatbelt in cars - which comes with every car.

Ah, but the difference there is that it can be quite difficult to spot the wearing or not of a seatbelt...somewhat hard to hide on a bike.

[fireliv]

Its not just pilions, what about scooter riders too.
I was chatting to a Yr 13 (7th former) last week as we walked throught the car park. He had a helmet in his hand, so I asked him where were his gloves. The response...it's not cold enouhg to need them yet, I'll get some before winter though.
So I took the opportunity to tell him what can happen to his hands in an accident. His g/f insisted that he go and buy gloves immediately.
On Monday, I saw the same student,he informed me he had ben down to the bike shop on Friday and bought gloves. He got knocked off his scoot on Saturday and grazed his gloves quite badly.
He thanked me for my advice and then told me that he'd taken heaps of skin off his elbow though. He'd not worn a jacket of any kind..."cos its not that cold yet"

Aaaargh!
But, nobody had ever explained to him the need for any gear, even when he bought his scooter brand new from a dealer!!

That was my thought too. I have yet to see a scooter rider in fullm and proper gear! Like you say even gloves are a rareity! THe norn is Jandals and a tee yet they can hit speeds that will leave them looking like a peeled tomato too.

[Jiminy]

When I was pillioning people, I gave my jacket to them if they didn't have one. Its better for me to get hurt than them to get injured. The guiltyness IF we come off etc etc

I like that attitude. I've had a few ladies asking me to come as a pillion, and I was wondering how I'd manage if they don't have all the gear. I have two items of almost every piece of gear, but then there is a size problem. Good on you for giving them your gear.

Before I started riding, I went as a pillion with a couple of riders. I didn't have all the gear. Being over 30 and having done mountain biking for 10 years, I felt it was my choice to accept the risks or refuse the ride.

To the riders' credit, they use all their spare gear on me. However, I'm still upset with one of the riders to hit 190kph just because 'we were late'. Argl, as if arriving 30 seconds earlier is worth the risk of a bin at 190 with no proper boots and trousers! He still hears me complaining about it...

[chasio]

That was my thought too. I have yet to see a scooter rider in fullm and proper gear! Like you say even gloves are a rareity! THe norn is Jandals and a tee yet they can hit speeds that will leave them looking like a peeled tomato too.

I promise that we do exist. My GT200 will clear 120kmh, though maybe not uphill . I wear hard armoured jacket and pants, Shoei on my head, Sidi on my feet and decent bike gloves. I wear it all, every time I ride.

I'm trying hard to never need it.

[Roki_nz]

Aaaargh!
But, nobody had ever explained to him the need for any gear, even when he bought his scooter brand new from a dealer!!

The problem I find with scooters is how they are advertised.

When I was looking through a magazine recently I noticed all the people modelling in the ads for scooters they only had half helmets on and no other gear. Typically it was blocks in causal suits and girls in skirts.

Compared with the bike adverts where people were wearing far more gear. When I first looked at getting a bike I can remember always seeing people in gear and thinking it looked cool so I went get gear (not to mention dad told me about his accidents).

If scooters were advertised with people wearing full kit it I am sure the riders would by the gear as well.

Btw don’t you just have a laugh when its pissing down with rain, bloody windy and someone gets on their scooter with their little woollen gloves and puffy jacket and goes for a ride. Always makes me smile at their stupidity.

[Nagash]

The gear for pillions is interesting, I've got 5 helmets, 2 jackets and 3 pairs of gloves, at home. But that's not usually where i'm pillioning from. On occasion I have gone back home, collected the gear and come back but sometimes that's unrealistic so I always make them wear my gear. My risk and I have no bad feelings about it.

Just gotta take risks sometimes..

[James Deuce]

I've done a bit of reading of late, especially in the 250 section (They don't like me in there. I keep shining a torch on their inadequate penis extensions.) and I've figured out the rules.

1. All pillions must be outfitted in a helmet that the rider had previously crashed in. Size doesn't matter and neither does vision. It's cool to have battle scars on your pillion's visor.
2. Pillions must wear hipster jeans with their thong showing. Gender doesn't matter as this is merely a display of submissive sexual status. Riderz R Cool. Pillions are meat.
3. Footwear must be converse boots with the laces undone. The "laces undone" bit is very important. They won't be able to get caught in the chain if they are fastened securely.
4. Pillions don't need warm or waterproof gear as they are sitting behind the rider.
5. If you do have warm or waterproof gear to lend your victim, err pillion, it must be so heavily damaged that the Salvation Army have already rejected it.
6. Most important of all. If anything happens it isn't the rider's responsibility to ensure that the pillion is correctly clothed. They're a grown up and it's their life. Serves them right for getting on the back of my bike with crap gear on.

OK, sarcasm off.

If the pillion doesn't have their own well maintained, good fitting gear, don't take them on the back. The law only mandates a helmet. Surely you give more of shit for your pillions than the law does?

Look at it from a selfish viewpoint. One day you may grow a conscience and the fact that "Mary" only has one foot and half of one arm may actually start to gnaw at you. That can be a total shit, that can.

[Fudmucker]

So tell me - is that first post pic, is a bike riding on the LEFT side and running wide, or a biker riding on the RIGHT side and cutting the corner...?

Either way, what the h*ll is he doing riding there...!??



BTW: Riding to a ToyRun one year, a pillion on a Blackhawk was perched there wearing a string halter top and tight cycle pants with a high-riding G-string. I've never seen so many guys before trying to ride in formation behind that bike...!

[sunhuntin]

So tell me - is that first post pic, is a bike riding on the LEFT side and running wide, or a biker riding on the RIGHT side and cutting the corner...?

Either way, what the h*ll is he doing riding there...!??



BTW: Riding to a ToyRun one year, a pillion on a Blackhawk was perched there wearing a string halter top and tight cycle pants with a high-riding G-string. I've never seen so many guys before trying to ride in formation behind that bike...!

i *think* the photo is american, which could explain a few things.

susan doesnt come riding with me unless shes wearing the gear shes got. although i often ride in a singlet or tshirt, theres no way id allow her to do the same. all the gear, or you can stay home. id never forgive myself if she got hurt. im not even all that happy with her jacket, and want her to get an armoured one, neither of us can afford it right now, so itll have to wait.

[fLaThEaD FreD]

My partner is my world and I would never live with myself if I hurt her. She's been around bikes all her life and I am new to it. I've not yet had her on the back yet as I'm not ready but have already started getting her the good gear. Fitting fullface helmet ,Armoured jacket and gloves sofar.Next are matching armoured or leather pants(her choice) and some decent boots. I've had one decent bin and still recovering but the good gear at least kept my skin on my bones......the bones were another story lololol
She especially knows how vunerable we are and wont ride with me until she is totally satisfied she will be safe with me.

i *think* the photo is american, which could explain a few things.

susan doesnt come riding with me unless shes wearing the gear shes got. although i often ride in a singlet or tshirt, theres no way id allow her to do the same. all the gear, or you can stay home. id never forgive myself if she got hurt. im not even all that happy with her jacket, and want her to get an armoured one, neither of us can afford it right now, so itll have to wait.

[Mountlocal1]

Reminds me of a guy I saw out Oropi a few years back on a TL or similer sports bike doin mono's up and down a road with jeans, sneakers and singlet. No helmet. Wouldve been doing well over 100k.

I have to admit I was guilty of letting someone on the back with just jeans jacket etc back when I was a young fella... Now days if my spare gear dont fit ya or ya dont have your own then aint no way in hell your getting on my bike.