Pirelli Race Tyres - Which ones and when?

[Robert Taylor]

To throw another spanner into the works, we found similar behaviour to what Shaun has detailed with the Contis

Continental has a few ex Pirelli engineers working for them.

[Drew]

To throw another spanner into the works, we found similar behaviour to what Shaun has detailed with the Contis

Continental are forthcomnig with that very info, it's where I got it from.


They wont however give track temp/compound figures, for the simple fact that it is different for every surface.


RT, yep, suspension makes tyres last better, but knowing to read the difference between a tyre over heating because of temp instead of too little compression is as valuabe, as anything else we do to be number one.

Keep tuning your suspension for the wrong tyre, and you're goin in the wrong direction, is my point here folks, not to ignore RT and his band of merry men and buy more tyres. It's all about balance, we cannot make the perfect bike, but we can try to find a ridable mix of good and bad.

[CHOPPA]

Having well sorted quality suspension ( as you have ) kind of helps as well!

It sure does mate! I had a play with my suspension settings and just 2 clicks here or there made a big diff! all said and done though im back to exactly how you sent it to me you even got the race sag spot on out of the box cheers!

[moT]

Be very carefull with asking questions like this one, and asking people on a web site to awnser accurately mate, Very dangerous

Pirelli is

SCO HOT WEATHER- As per in the USA and Europe

SC1 average temp WARM To HOT

SC2 Invercargill-Taupo Cold weather

Used this way, they will last the best, and offer the most grip!

shouldnt it be the other way around? What you say doesnt make sence..

[Drew]

shouldnt it be the other way around? What you say doesnt make sence..

It does make sense, the softer tyre is designed to work at higher temperatures.

It's about keeping the carcas and surface as close to the same temp as possible. Because the bigger the difference in temp, the less tactile and more wear you get (surface basically melts off the carcas). At least that was how I had it explained to me.

[GSVR]

It does make sense, the softer tyre is designed to work at higher temperatures.

It's about keeping the carcas and surface as close to the same temp as possible. Because the bigger the difference in temp, the less tactile and more wear you get (surface basically melts off the carcas). At least that was how I had it explained to me.

I wonder whos tyres all those big globs of rubber you pick up on the cooldown lap come off?

Or you could look at from the sliding produces friction and heat. The stickier tyre isn't going to slide around as much so wont get as hot.

Can work both ways. The only way I would believe anything is to see it at the track. ie When I see Glen Williams or any other SV650 rider getting longer life out of an SC1 or actually using one and going considerably faster and not having to replace the tyre after each race.

Continental have a soft, medium, and endurance tyre designation right?

With Pirrelli its extrasoft SC0 ,soft SC1, medium SC2, hard SC3 , extrahard SC4. The SC0 was introduced in 2004.

Oh just one other question Drew why are rain tyres extra soft? keeping true to your theory.

These guys have a little bit of info and interestingly suggest using SC0 on the rear at some tracks,
http://www.tigersharkracing.com/aboutus.sc

[Drew]

Oh just one other question Drew why are rain tyres extra soft? keeping true to your theory.

Mate, the youngest Mair could be out in F3 this year, so dont beliave me if ya dont want to, ony gonna work in our favour.

But to answer your question, yep, wets are super dooper soft, INCLUDING the carcas, and they are run at lower pressures to maintain the heat by flexing the whole thing. Wet tyre design shouldn't really be part of this debate because they do lots of things differently.

The man regarded top dog in suspension tuning, and Shaun have both agreed with the way I would run my tyres in an ideal situation, as do the engineers at Continental.

You say you'll wait for Glen Williams to do it before you do, why not try something new and knock the current leaders off the top spot?