Interesting ads.
It seems to be the same issue as the 1981 tour: Is sport just sport, or are we giving approval to a murderous regime by attending and not speaking out? (not that we can do much in tiny NZ anyway.)
Discuss.
Freakin' hippy
Interesting ads.
It seems to be the same issue as the 1981 tour: Is sport just sport, or are we giving approval to a murderous regime by attending and not speaking out? (not that we can do much in tiny NZ anyway.)
Discuss.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Well, the real nastiness about the whole China thing is that UN and other international organisations is that it's been, how much is it 50, 60 years?, before anyone actually started addressing the Tibet affair.
It's kinda late to start condemning China for it now...
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Forum whore
Of course... once the body has rotted away, the stink of rotting flesh is no longer offensive. It ain't right! and shutting our eyes don't make it so. Shame on all of usOriginally Posted by Mikkel
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
His Excellency
A high proportion of this planets countries/regime's have horrible human rights records. Now, and historically.
It's hedious, but unfortunately it's part of human nature. The Olympics might help open China to a better way for the future, (or not).
I will not feel ashamed for actions that are perpetrated by those that I have no persuasion over. (but I also do not condone those actions).
Wish it all away...
Yeah, even New Zealand, if you take as accurate portrayal what Bryce Courtney has written about the checkered past (The Ikey Soloman trilogy but particularly Tommo and Hawk).
Soapbox house of cards and glass, so don't go tossing your stones around.
You musta been.... high. You musta been...
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Even better is good old labour, cosying up to the chinese regime with the free trade agreement. The only country in the world to do that.
I wonder what we'll be saying about this decision, in 5-10 years time.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Lumpy
Regardless of what any country does in relation to the olympics, China is such an economic powerhouse she can tell us all to go fuck ourselves. This isn't some African Banana Republic.
"No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as the dog does."
Forum whore
Well, we don't want China to become like NZ either where former terrorists who hide their identity become first class citizens and get their family shipped over too (at the Tax Payers cost).
I am more positive about China - If you study the nation's history, yes horrible shit has happened and continues to, but what country hasn't committed similar humanity crimes at some point? Track the last 30 years i.e. getting rid of Mao and humanity crimes are improving.
In fact, if any of you are serious about humanity crimes - enlighten yourselves with the track records of the IMF & World Bank economic projects in developing countries.
Anyway, bow to your soon-to-be world leaders. Last count China had just under a trillion in USD stashed away for a rainy day. 10-20 years (opinions range), and China will be the economic superpower of the world.
Freakin' hippy
True, but National supports the deal too, and I think National MP Tim Groser went with Helen Clarke to the signing, to show that the two main political parties in NZ both fully support the free trade deal.
What I don't understand is the NZ and Chinese job markets being merged. WTF!?? We'll be swamped by underpaid foreign workers!
In one way I guess the Olympics in China will be good, it'll make people look at the stuff China is doing, executing prisoners for organ donations, driving those execution buses around from village to village, imprisoning thousands for peaceful protest or doing Tai Chi, or "plotting", etc etc.
Maybe that'll lead to a little bit of change in China, who knows.
Having a Zen moment...
I'm guessing all of that will be happening well out of the public eye...
Redefining slow since 2006...
Kiwi back at home!
hmmmm can you spell Tibet?
Night rider
Welcome to the People's Republic of New Zealand.
Time to ride
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Totally agree with you there.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Here for the arcade.
Perfect! Just what they wanted wasn't it? All the supermarkets have had the wallets bleeding having to pay all those 15 year olds minimum wage.
The only real difference between Labour and National is Labour uses lube.
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