And the Sick F**k award goes to ...

[Hitcher]

I must admit to being somewhat undecided on that issue. I find that I am frustrated with these sort of things going on, but at the same time realise that permanantly removing these folks isnt a viable option either. So, I am thinking that it is a case of damned if we do string them up, and damned of we let them go. Anyone got any ideas on how things could be changed for the better?

If the evidence against the gentleman in question is as damning in Court as it is here, then a jury should have few difficulties finding said gent guilty. I imagine that the judge will show little mercy when sentencing, so a very long prison stint will be the order of the day.

The real issue here is what we as a society are prepared to do about those in our communities who think that it's OK to beat up (and I don't mean spanking) on their kids and partners. Domestic violence in New Zealand isn't so much an "epidemic" as a national pastime that we appear to condone. This is about US, not THEM!! Similarly the P epidemic or just passively accepting that it's OK for kids to smoke Dac and waste their lives. What are WE doing about it, apart from bitching that there are too few cops with too few resources, or that the Gummint should pass harsher laws? For fuck's sake, it's about US!!

[jrandom]

at the same time realise that permanantly removing these folks isnt a viable option either.

Bloody oath it is. I got a real good 160-grain solution to that problem of yours.

So, I am thinking that it is a case of damned if we do string them up...

Who's gonna damn you? And why does it matter?

Anyone got any ideas on how things could be changed for the better?

People like you could stop being so damn *wet*, for a start.

[Hitcher]

See what happens when you edit your post to add missing punctuation? There's nothing worse than a poorly punctuated rant!

[Hitcher]

Oooh, let's have a capital punishment thread. We haven't done that in a while.

Who's with me?

You'll be first against the wall, sunshine!

[James Deuce]

I must admit to being somewhat undecided on that issue. I find that I am frustrated with these sort of things going on, but at the same time realise that permanantly removing these folks isnt a viable option either. So, I am thinking that it is a case of damned if we do string them up, and damned of we let them go. Anyone got any ideas on how things could be changed for the better?

It is simple. You can't change people. People have to decide to change for themselves.

I'm against the recently passed Bill to strike minor convictions. Quite simply it means that all property is fair game (shoplifting, and minor fraud are included in legislation).

The basic morals of a society are relatively easy to learn. If you don't get "it", there should be permanent consequences.

[Hitcher]

It is simple. You can't change people. People have to decide to change for themselves.

I'm against the recently passed Bill to strike minor convictions. Quite simply it means that all property is fair game (shoplifting, and minor fraud are included in legislation).

The basic morals of a society are relatively easy to learn. If you don't get "it", there should be permanent consequences.

At last, a kindred spirit on the Clean Slate Act! I thought I was going mad when those alongside whom I work thought that it was a good idea. Surely it is your (prospective) employer's call as to whether you have rehabilitated yourself? A "minor" crime committed during one's youth should still be available for prospective employers and others into whose trust you expect to operate.

[MikeL]

An obvious troll.

Nobody who has met the urbane, intelligent and erudite JR would for a moment entertain the thought that he could support the barbarity of capital punishment...

[James Deuce]

An obvious troll.

Nobody who has met the urbane, intelligent and erudite JR would for a moment entertain the thought that he could support the barbarity of capital punishment...

Sotto Voce - 'cept if they bought him a nice "piece" to do the deed.

[Slipstream]

Crikey. And to think we let him take Tim for a ride on the back of his R6 as well...

No no no...that was Jase, he's cool...it was his stuff that was nicked....he wanted to hit the guy for stealing his stereo...hearing what he did to the baby, now he wants to lynch the guy.

I repeat, the guy on the R6 is not the f**kwit. The f**kwit is in a holding cell and has been for a while.

[jimbo600]

That's just damn well scary. I am truly lost for words.

[ajturbo]

bit of a shame...
my younger brother lives in welly, he would have been the best baby sitter in the world...but as all good things come to and end...he is leaving for china, and a new life/wife...
but when (if) he comes back .......

[jrandom]

An obvious troll.

Yee, and, if I may venture to add, haw.

Nobody who has met the urbane, intelligent and erudite JR would for a moment entertain the thought that he could support the barbarity of capital punishment...

As a matter of fact, I have a well-considered, well-defined and perfectly defensible position on the subject, the laying out here of which would be utterly boring and pointless, since none of you would find yourselves capable of disagreeing with it...

[sels1]

He had looked after my kids too [/QUOTE]

Every parents nightmare, Slipstream. Glad you and yours are ok

[sels1]

Repeat offending, yes (if you got the right person). Innocent people wrongly executed, yes. Disincentive to others contemplating similar crimes, no.

We live in a (so-called) civilised society, where democracy and the rule of law apply (mostly). While offended at barbarous crimes wrought inhumanely against the innocent and helpless, I find the thought of capital punishment and revenge killing even more offensive. I condemn all thoughts of vigilante justice or "mob" rule.

Well put Hitcher, I'm with you on that one.

[Storm]

By the way JR, my most basic job defintion is that I kill people on your behalf, so maybe I should quit with the "wet" bit and be more the hillbilly hick that I was raised to be.

So there :eyepoke: