Banning party pills - a silly idea?

**carver** · 10th April 2008, 18:40

since banning party pills (BZP), there HAS been a increase in the demand for E and Acid etc...so much so that there is a shortage of Exstacy and acid.
so in my mind, party pill users have had to turn to harder, illegal drugs, for their recreation.
was it a fuckup or not, your thoughts.

**Disco Dan** · 10th April 2008, 18:48

Before the party pills were banned, the harder drugs like E and Acid where given a much higher level of respect. For most they did not come along all the time and even when they did, there was usually hesitation and/or even planning (Of course there were people above and below that group).

When party pills became common, that group went to using party pills to complement the 'not so hard' drugs. What has and will continue to happen now, is that those people will have no choice but to move towards E and Acid in order to 'keep the high'.

Just some of my random on the spot thoughts.

**CookMySock** · 10th April 2008, 19:12

gee what happened to just having a wee toke ? It's all so serious now. LOLOLOL

DB

**Livvy** · 10th April 2008, 19:13

It disgusts me to say it, but Carver, I think you're right. It was a silly idea. But it was silly letting them into the country anyway, because now those who started on party pills and whom wouldn't have ever tried other drugs then thought, hey, this is supposed to be similar to drug x that is illegal, but I'm getting used to this party pill, now I want that drug x.

That's what I've seen anyway.

**Boob Johnson** · 10th April 2008, 20:13

Originally Posted by carver

so in my mind, party pill users have had to turn to harder, illegal drugs, for their recreation

Good to see you thought about the title a bit more this time Carver

Just a question.......do they HAVE to turn to illegal drugs like you are suggesting? Or is that a choice they can make freely?

**RantyDave** · 10th April 2008, 20:17

No, it was the right thing to do. BZP was, IIRC, something that vets used. Horse medicine or something, hence not being on any 'illegal' lists because it just never seemed apparent that anyone would take the stuff.

So, ban it? Yeah. Legalise weed? Yeah. Legalise E? Yeah. Tax the shit out of it, apply quality controls, lock up people who sell it cut with baking powder.

Dave

**skidMark** · 10th April 2008, 20:18

I know alot of people that used party pills and even when they were still legal they basically all went well this is good but i hear the other stuff , illegal ectasy(sp?) etc, is even better so tried it, where as before party pills were around hardly anybody i knew would try e due to the risk of it, but party pills were seen as much safer, so they tried them then were more willing to take the risk of e because they saw the benefit of the high from party pills.

Just my observation on the matter.

**Gubb** · 10th April 2008, 20:19

There's BZP-free alternatives.

Why turn to Ecstasy?

**Gubb** · 10th April 2008, 20:21

Originally Posted by RantyDave

No, it was the right thing to do. BZP was, IIRC, something that vets used. Horse medicine or something

Cattle Drench.

**sugilite:Me** · 10th April 2008, 20:39

I tried party pills three weeks ago. I was not planning to, but was feeling really tired and I saw them advertised at the dairy I went into. I thought they would just be like an energy drink but stronger. How wrong I was! Thought I'd give them at least one go before they are banned.

As soon as it came on I was really suprised they were legalised in the first place. Thats the way the government should have been stopped them, not this groom the way for a lucritive black market to spring up for them. Stupid idea.

Anyways, I did notice the after effects for about 4 days, esp the teeth. Did not feel to flash for the kidney and liver either. I drank shitloads of water through the whole process. They maybe other peoples cup of tea, but not mine.

I feel the banning of them would see most people buying BZP over the black market, rather than hooking up with harder drugs. I reckon most of the people that do hard drugs would have made the decision to do that, whether they had tried BZP or not.

**quallman1234** · 10th April 2008, 20:45

Its a bit weird, ive taken Party Pills (and admitally stocked up a couple on the 31st) however they don't effect me.

I do think quite alot of people nowadays are going to head towards E, or BZP party pills on the "black market", The problem with the BZP one is that there is no Control's on em now!

**Gubb** · 10th April 2008, 20:51

Originally Posted by quallman1234

Its a bit weird, ive taken Party Pills (and admitally stocked up a couple on the 31st) however they don't effect me.

I do think quite alot of people nowadays are going to head towards E, or BZP party pills on the "black market", The problem with the BZP one is that there is no Control's on em now!

Why stock up on them if they have no effect on you?

**dangerous** · 10th April 2008, 20:53

Originally Posted by carver

so in my mind, party pill users have had to turn to harder, illegal drugs, for their recreation.

farking loosers then, they deserve what they get... what a crock saying they "had" to turn... they could have said 'fuk that'

**Ragingrob** · 10th April 2008, 20:57

Isn't there the theory that drugs such as ecstasy were actually safer than party pills? Lol I'm sure I heard that somewhere, definitely the come down period from party pills is worse than that of ecstacy from what I've heard. Having said all this, I've taken party pills in the past, the last time induced a seizure lol... But hey I wasn't taking it as advised, but who on earth does? Does anyone have pills and not drink alcohol?

Overall, good idea I think. Drugs are drugs, it's not like people can't still get a hold of anything that's illegal if you want it that bad.