Just a Dog
Got talked into going for the road attack on the rear at the last change to get a few more k's out of the tyre, seeing i do a lot of two up stuff ! Scrubbed it in on the track and being the nanna i am it seemed fine !
Wondering though if i should drop to the same pressures as the race attack when on the track ! Still running the michellin pilot i got it with on the front though ! Would that change things ?
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
Hardcore Biker
Cool tyre huh ? Don't drop the pressure though. The Race Attack is a rayon carcase, which is much stiffer than the Road Attack's nylon one. What bike do you ride ? if it's a jap sportsbike you should look at around 42psi for the rear on the road, and only drop it a couple of psi if it seems harsh over abrupt bumps. On the track is a bit more tricky. Jay lawrence has used Road Attack, but we tried pressures that were too low, and they didn't feel right. You could try about 36psi rear and adjust from there to your own tasteOriginally Posted by sinfull
The Road Attack rear is designed to work fine with any other brand front tyre, so no worries there
Just a Dog
Beauty mate side wall issue was the thing that had me wondering in Jays post !Cool tyre huh ? Don't drop the pressure though. The Race Attack is a rayon carcase, which is much stiffer than the Road Attack's nylon one. What bike do you ride ? if it's a jap sportsbike you should look at around 42psi for the rear on the road, and only drop it a couple of psi if it seems harsh over abrupt bumps. On the track is a bit more tricky. Jay lawrence has used Road Attack, but we tried pressures that were too low, and they didn't feel right. You could try about 36psi rear and adjust from there to your own taste
The Road Attack rear is designed to work fine with any other brand front tyre, so no worries there
Running the tyres on the Speed 3 and do have an issue with it being a bit of a kidney thumper on the harsh bumps, (even with the rear dampening wound soft, which is somit i havnt quite sussed the science of lol) run them at 36 /42 generally on the road as probly 60% of the time i'm 2 up, so might bring the back down a bit ! On the track i drop em to 30/32 34/36
Think i'll stop being a tightwad to get the extra few thousand k and go with the race attack on the next change, as i had a couple of wee slides tonight whilst on a "pootle" over peakok (one on a white line the other on the black) haha loved every second (wern't much longer n that) but think i'll go for max grip in future !
Cheers again !
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
Hardcore Biker
Sweet ! I have a few thoughts on what you posted (bad habit of mine) The harshness over bumps is something you can't really adjust with clickers. It's more in the high speed side of things, so valving matters most. You might find that the clisker makes very little difference with that, so if you want to improve it you should speak to God himself - Tory Taylor at CKT.
If a slightly lower pressure helps with the holes that infest the Paekak hill, then try winding a little clicker back in - it may help with low speed control and stop pitching and pumping etc. race attack sreet would be great over summer if you are a hard charger, but do consider the wet/cold behaviour before going that way. Conti Sport Attack is stupid sticky, and may be you. Only you can be tha judge of that
Just a Dog
Love your bad habits ! Mine's leechingSweet ! I have a few thoughts on what you posted (bad habit of mine) The harshness over bumps is something you can't really adjust with clickers. It's more in the high speed side of things, so valving matters most. You might find that the clisker makes very little difference with that, so if you want to improve it you should speak to God himself - Tory Taylor at CKT.
If a slightly lower pressure helps with the holes that infest the Paekak hill, then try winding a little clicker back in - it may help with low speed control and stop pitching and pumping etc. race attack sreet would be great over summer if you are a hard charger, but do consider the wet/cold behaviour before going that way. Conti Sport Attack is stupid sticky, and may be you. Only you can be tha judge of that
Saw a movie once and a wise man said "Stupid is as stupid does" so stupid sticky works for me, as the next trick this old dog needs to learn on the track is wieght distribution ! Came from a cruiser background so still learnin to corner lol. Chicken strips dissapeared after the second track day on the 955 and now they dont exist on the 1050 even on the road, so yeah learn i must and learn it fast before push it to the point i run out of rubber lol !
Have heard that some ride the Speed 3 in a motard style due to the uprightness which could be fun to try out with warm tyres !
Came to the realisation that the 675 is the only bike tiumph put any effort into the suspention valving (almost had me going that way, till the 1050 came up cheapish) even more dissapointed with the one sided valving on the 1050's front end !
Doing the motott day morra so will start cranking things back up in the clicker dept, Before i head up today (2 up) as you are correct, it made SFA difference apart from probly worstening both low speed and the charging side of it (wound the fronts out too)
But i digress ! Back to leeching lol. Till i can afford to see God about a suspension rebuild (heard the stock rears tend to shit themselves anyway) i need to find a happy medium with comp/rebound !
Know that with the dodgy valving, the clickers make diddly difference till they're either full in or full out so was thinkin (Bad habit of mine also, but seein i'm still not the smoothest and brake hard then grab a fistfull) i might try setting the front "hard comp and soft rebound" to keep it tracking and on the rear, soft comp so the weight goes down to the tyre and and hard rebound so it dont toss me forward when i grab the brake !
Am i getting this science or have i got it all wrong ?
Cheers Forest
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
Hardcore Biker
Um, i would avoid running into too much rebound. In general terms, rebound damping has a large influece on traction, as well as ride height control, so don't be overkeen. Mostly I would think that you can only do so much with what you have, and winding too much of anything in will most likely create as many issues as it solves. That's as long as it's not set anywhere silly at the moment.
But then i'm not a suspension expert . . . . . .
Just a Dog
Yeah hey ya not wrong with that quote, reset all the clickers to factory settings and had a bloody great day at the track today !
only so much ya can do with the bike and it's rider alike lol
If i'd got this addiction 30 yr ago it might be a race bike i'd be looking at, but for now this old fart's having a ball and still plenty of sharpening up left in the riders side of things, before the challenge loses it's edge due to the bikes shortcomings !
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
Hardcore Biker
I hear it was pretty cold up there . . . . . . . .
Just a Dog
With the possibility of sounding far too deep for Kb,(could be the bourbon) but i've seen a number of friends go down in a screaming heap and some even die chasing a fix all their life !
I hear it was pretty cold up there . . . . . . . .
Here i am at 12.30 am the day following 5 runs on the track and a 3 hr ride home and can i sleep ? haha crack is for the weak !
Yeah i've prebooked the next two track days and if i had more money, would set the bike up for clubmans (who needs food electricity and a roof anyway)
Kudos to the guys who can crank it to the point of interesting sponsors to back em !
What a life to live !!!
And cold ? Nah, nice breeze to bare the sweaty arse to now and then is all lol
A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"
Bowls can wait !
L-Plate Rider
Thanks for all the advice on this thread everyone. I'm another happy customer as my Race Attack Streets did their job at the track yesterday. I ran 30F/28R as recommended and they were confidence inspiring once I got used to the way the sidewalls felt softer (than my old BT15s) and by the 4th session I was riding with more confidence than I can remember!
Shaun Harris checked my bike ZX6R to see how they were wearing and gave the suspension setup his thumbs up - thanks Shaun! At the end of the day there was no tearing or balling up (but perhaps I just ain't fast enough...).
Riding home I took the pressures back up to street levels 36F/40R and they did the job once again. If I can get decent mileage out of them (i.e. 4000ks or more), I'll be definately running these again.
'07 CBR600RR
Hardcore Biker
I would be very interested to hear how you get on. The Race Attack is very very sticky, so 4000km for the rear could be a stretch. Would you post an update at a later stage ?
That'd be grand
The TV collector.
First couple of hundred k done, taking it easy coz they are still green but so far so good.
Hardcore Biker
You looked like you were enjoying your self out there as well mate, those Conti's do work eh
I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots! ALBERT EINSTEIN
L-Plate Rider
Yes Shaun, after the first session I was loving every lap and started really getting into the groove by the end of the day.
Having you give my bike a quick check also helped my trust in the tyres and the bike's suspension - cheers!
'07 CBR600RR
L-Plate Rider
Sure thing Mishy, I'll post an update later this summer with how long I get on them.I would be very interested to hear how you get on. The Race Attack is very very sticky, so 4000km for the rear could be a stretch. Would you post an update at a later stage ?
That'd be grand
'07 CBR600RR
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