Shaun Harris and No entry to MNZ Club

[Shaun]

WHY I BELIEVE THE RIDERS “NOT” MNZ ARE TO BLAIM

This is a copy of a letter, ( Sent out approx 08-03-2004) that I sent out to ALL MNZ LICENSE holders in 2004 ( Ones with current addresses) 225 Sent out ( With self addressed stamped envelopes to return) Pretty easy really!!!!! Or so I thought?

RoadRacing Promoter/coordinator

Please take the time to read and Respond, your comments are extremely important and without your feedback it makes it hard to make changes that will benefit our racing and enhance the future of our sport.

I am proposing that the motorcycle fraternity EMPLOY our own full time promotor/coordinator, until all replies are returned and worked through, the full time job description is not possible to outline here, but I will include what I would like this person to be doing.

JOB DESCRIPTION

Coordination of all clubs and race format, and information for riders, and communication with MNZ.
Promotional work with the media, series sponsors, importers, clubs, MNZ etc
Group purchasing for race products making our purchase price lower and already giving a return on our investment. ( Will work for some and not others)

Rome was not built in a day and neither will this be, that is why I have started doing this now because there will be a few issues to arrange to make this happen.

WHO TO EMPLOY

I suggest that we nominate 2 rider reps from each class and let this group go through all the resumes and make a choice.

HOW TO PAY THIS PERSON

This is where I need you all to think long and hard about our racing and our sport and what it means to you!

I propose that we all invest $250-00 into this campaign. ( I have a company that will put $ 5000-00 into the fund, if I can get 100 riders to invest in there own future)

If we all agree here is what We would have to start with

142 people @ $250-00 = $35-000 + $ 5000-00 = $40-500

$40-500 paid to our promoter as a base salary with an agreed percentage ( To top the salary package up) of additional funds that they would bring into the sport from business promotions.

I realise that this may seem to simple, but some of the best things in the world are simple, no need for this to be difficult.



I RECIEVED 45 REPLIES TO THIS MAIL OUT ONLY!!!!!!!!

It is the RIDERS that are not helping our sport, NOT MNZ!

Even Tony Rees agreed to the above, and he is a proffesional business man, and was a very well sponsored rider, but could see the benefit to one and all.


So based on the above, I decided NOT to put my name in the Hat for the road race Nth Island Role- the riders them selves are not prepared to work hard enough, so why would I go into battle for people that are not prepared to fight them self, and this way, I can also focus on my 2 riders instead of others. Sorry to any one that went out of there way to nominate me.

[Shaun]

50 Views and No comments- WOW, I suppose some who have read it are not MNZ members

[scott411]

were you suprised that the average rider could not give a fuck? it is the vocal minority that normally get there way,

[Joni]

50 Views and No comments- WOW, I suppose some who have read it are not MNZ members

I sort of get where you are coming from... but there are so many racers I know who suffer from the CBF’s (Can’t be fucked’itis)... if it resembles hard work they won’t get involved. They just bitch about it most of the time...

I understand your frustration Shaun.

[Shaun]

exactually to both of you How the hell do ya help people that do not seem to want it, or relly just want there arses wiped

[dhunt]

50 Views and No comments- WOW, I suppose some who have read it are not MNZ members

Hi Shaun, do you think if you did that again today (about 4 years on) would the response be any different? My understanding is that motorcycle racing popularity has been increasing in the last couple years??? Therefore more people willing to to contribute???

[SixPackBack]

Many reasons why individuals would not reply.

• They are already putting every spare cent in to racing.
• Racers do not agree with your proposal.
• The proposal lacks enough details for further action.

I suspect the last point is the most likely reason for your poor response, it seems you have a firm idea of what you believe should happen but fail to provide suffcient detail. Hence recipients are unsure of what you are proposing and why.

Good luck Shaun, perhaps you could use this opportunity to fully explain the what, where and why together with some historic detail.

[scott411]

exactually to both of you How the hell do ya help people that do not seem to want it, or relly just want there arses wiped

fuck knows, have tried a few ways but nothing really works, but if you find out let me know,

[Shaun]

fuck knows, have tried a few ways but nothing really works, but if you find out let me know,

Will do if it ever happens!

The above posts, NO, I will not be spending any more time on this, there was a way for people to ask more and act for there own interests, which only a hand full did.

[Tony.OK]

Are ya having a bad week mate?
Speaking only for myself and as someone very new to racing,I've got no experience with MNZ,I'm struggling to pay for my fees and licences now.
I would've been wrapped to have ya as a rep,passion about the sport can only be good.
But please don't put everyone in the same boat,since 04 there is probably a whole new crowd gotten into racing.Alot can change in 4 years..........hell I might even be famous by then

[Drew]

To be honest, I would have trouble coming up with the money in a lump, but it occurs I might not need to, salary being paid wouldn't be a lump sum.

It is a great idea to get a promoter out there, but who makes the coin from us racing now? MNZ. Who would make more coin with a promoter gettin arses in seats? Same answer. Why are we paying?...

Fair enough that you think we shouldn't bitch about it, without trying to do something ourselves, (we would have more open doors when on the sponsorship bludge for sure), but if you could take a minute to read the mission statement in the front of the current rule book, I think you'll find MNZ should be getting a promoter by thier own admission. "To further the sport of motorcycling in New Zealand".

[Burrt Badger]

How does MNZ make coin from you Drew. You pay a licence fee to them (a one off payment) and what else???? MNZ have an Office staff of five, the rest are ALL volunteers.
Your entry fees go to the club organising the event, to pay for running the event (Ambulances, track hire, etc) not to MNZ, and you show me a CLUB that makes vast amounts of money from organising Road Race Events. Most clubs are lucky to even avoid losing money on the road race events they run.
MNZ are working pretty hard "To further the Sport of Motorcycling". Road Racing will have about 20 hours of TV coverage this year. Thats less than Motorsport NZ have, but then Motorsport NZ have paid approximately
$500, 000 to get their coverage. Furthering the sport also relates to rules, administration etc.
Shaun has worked bloody hard in the past, trying to get Road Racers to work together for the advancement of the sport, but the response was underwhelming.
Motorcycling New Zealand is only as good as it's members, because it's the members who can actually guide the sport with their input or feedback. No input equals things being done that MNZ think are correct, but, without guidence, they dont know.
THE WHOLE SITUATION IS DEPENDANT ON COMMUNICATION.
There is no point bitching and moaning on Kiwibiker forum, because if you dont contact the people who can make the changes, nothing will change.

[Sparky Bills]

There is no point bitching and moaning on Kiwibiker forum, because if you dont contact the people who can make the changes, nothing will change.

Exactly!

[White trash]

To be honest, I would have trouble coming up with the money in a lump, but it occurs I might not need to, salary being paid wouldn't be a lump sum.

It is a great idea to get a promoter out there, but who makes the coin from us racing now? MNZ. Who would make more coin with a promoter gettin arses in seats? Same answer. Why are we paying?...

Fair enough that you think we shouldn't bitch about it, without trying to do something ourselves, (we would have more open doors when on the sponsorship bludge for sure), but if you could take a minute to read the mission statement in the front of the current rule book, I think you'll find MNZ should be getting a promoter by thier own admission. "To further the sport of motorcycling in New Zealand".

You miss the point son. What Mr Harris is suggesting (and I think a similar idea was floated 4-5 years ago Shaun?) is that there is a professional person, whos FULL TIME JOB is to promote road racing and secure event sponsorship. This A) Puts bums on seats = more gate takings = better TV coverage = better prize money, B) Gets some much needed corporate sponsorhip which will do exactly the same.

This was a fantastic idea when first mentioned years ago and I simply can't believe it never happened. Now we've got a chance to make it happen again.

Who do I write the cheque out to?

[jimbo600]

Who do I write the cheque out to?

Make it out to Jimbo Gibbings mate.