If a drunk guy is trying to make you angry would you give in?

[martybabe]

Aside from the disgusting act and the rage you must have felt there is usually a bigger picture to be seen when shit like this goes down. To put it clearly they were provoking you to take action, they have done this before and its possible they had a number of allies nearby or were armed for when the shit went down. She was not the target. Personally I would get us all out of there and call the cops....or not...depends on the bigger picture

No argument,that's what I 'should' have done.

[Tank]

Absolutely Tank but you must agree even a saint has limits.My only digression from the path of righteousness was escorting the wife and another couple through town after a night out.Two big drunken bastards walked up to my mates wife and gobbed,sorry UK,spat a huge greeny right in her face and down her beautiful dress,totally unprovoked we hadn't said anything or even looked in their direction. What do ya do mate, how the hecky peck can you walk away from that? Especially as it was clearly a provocative prelude to further abhorrent aggrovation.

I wasn't saying 'always' walk away. I'm guessing that the original poster was not someone who got in fights very often.

What you mention above is rather different. If it was someone being an arse to the lady - As long as it wasn't incredibly obvious that we were being set up (which can happen) - Id do my very best to pummel the bastard - and to fuck with the consequences.

In short - if someone fights - they have to be willing to lose, and remember that even after winning they can still lose (bloody assault charges etc etc). I have lost on plenty of occasions (and some quite spectacularly) - but I have never been in a position where I had to go away, think about it, then decide that the next time I'd 'smash' the guy like the poster has done.

Its something that is more basic 'fight or flight' - if you cannot make the decision to fight there and then 100% (like it sounds you did above), then fighting is not the option for you and flight is the smarter choice (like for the original poster).

Probably as clear as mud - but there you go.

This is speaking as a guy with 3 assault charges, a GBH, an actual bodily harm, and a weapons charge (baseball bat), and had passport confiscated preventing me from travel for a wee while. I didn't mind a bit of stouch when I was a little younger - but even after winning the above I lost in the long run because with my US visas were a pain in the ass to get. My employer is now aware of them because they had to pay for lawyers etc etc.

Best advise for a nice young bloke like the original poster is to learn from others mistakes and If you can reasonably walk away.

[martybabe]

I wasn't saying 'always' walk away. I'm guessing that the original poster was not someone who got in fights very often.

What you mention above is rather different. If it was someone being an arse to the lady - As long as it wasn't incredibly obvious that we were being set up (which can happen) - Id do my very best to pummel the bastard - and to fuck with the consequences.

In short - if someone fights - they have to be willing to lose, and remember that even after winning they can still lose (bloody assault charges etc etc). I have lost on plenty of occasions (and some quite spectacularly) - but I have never been in a position where I had to go away, think about it, then decide that the next time I'd 'smash' the guy like the poster has done.

Its something that is more basic 'fight or flight' - if you cannot make the decision to fight there and then 100% (like it sounds you did above), then fighting is not the option for you and flight is the smarter choice (like for the original poster).

Probably as clear as mud - but there you go.

This is speaking as a guy with 3 assault charges, a GBH, an actual bodily harm, and a weapons charge (baseball bat), and had passport confiscated preventing me from travel for a wee while. I didn't mind a bit of stouch when I was a little younger - but even after winning the above I lost in the long run because with my US visas were a pain in the ass to get. My employer is now aware of them because they had to pay for lawyers etc etc.

Best advise for a nice young bloke like the original poster is to learn from others mistakes and If you can reasonably walk away.

Totally agree with everything your saying mate.As I did before,just making the point that everyone has a point beyond which they will not accept what is being unjustly thrown at them.It isn't always possible to walk away. You clearly understand that already. I don't like violence ,like most decent people and will do almost anything to avoid it but that night , the only time in 32 years of adulthood was the time I couldn't walk away.

Cheers Tank. Oh and for the record Toto,the original poster,is indeed as you sumised a blardy nice bloke imo.

[TOTO]

Cultural insensitivity..

Unfortunately for such a motivated rider like Toto English isn't his first language.

So when he sets up a biker meeting at One Tree Hill and texts everyone One Used Hill lots of confusion erupts..

Lol too true and so funny. Thanks Josh.

Na I'm not a "fighter" but you have to agree that there is a point when that stopt to matter. Well so far the drunk guy has not created trouble coz I havent met him today, but now all are back on the piss in the backpackers so I'll keep try not to mess to much with him. We'll see. Update will be posted if something goes down

I'm off to naked jelly wrestling competition now...

[martybabe]

Lol too true and so funny. Thanks Josh.

Na I'm not a "fighter" but you have to agree that there is a point when that stopt to matter. Well so far the drunk guy has not created trouble coz I havent met him today, but now all are back on the piss in the backpackers so I'll keep try not to mess to much with him. We'll see. Update will be posted if something goes down

I'm off to naked jelly wrestling competition now...

don't forget your camera..........for the jelly wrestling I mean not the drunken twat.

[karla]

Wondering how others cope with drunk abusive people when YOU are completely sober. And at what point do you stop tolerating medium abusive behaviour ?

You can't change a drunk - pity him for he knows no better.

When we are sober we have no excuse for behaving badly ourselves - well done taking control and walking away. Anger is a luxury, don't let him take up too much space in your head, he's not worth it. And I'm sure he's not worried about you, or even thinking about you.

I think it's important to look after ourselves first when dealing with an alcoholic - drunks have their own crosses to bear. They often want to be the centre of attention, so walking away takes away their power.

Good luck with the game ~ !

[Jimmy B]

I'm off to naked jelly wrestling competition now...

Toto, That comment is useless without pictures

[ManDownUnder]

Best thing I ever saw was one of the boys simply walking over to him, talking quietly in his ear "I think you've had enough and it's time for you to go now"

The man in question had plenty of bouncing and similar experience to back it up but it wasn't needed. Just the dulcet tonesof polite words indirectly telling him that his mouth is about to break his nose...

[The Lone Rider]

I'd deck the mother ******* and leave my business card.

But seriously... have you not delt with some of the people on KB? Theres a few here who are like that even when they haven't been drinking.

Best ignore them, they aren't making themselves any friends.

It's a different matter if they take a swing at you though.

[firefighter]

youv'e got more patience than I do!