Pig of a rear brake, thar be squealin' boi!

[onearmedbandit]

Okay, thank you for answering my request. Sure, maybe I was a little heavy handed on the 'shut up and listen' statement, but that was intended towards myself. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, right or wrong. As far as 'one man's opinion', well sorry it wasn't his opinion, rather data taken from telemetry from these guys bikes, so hardly qualifies as 'opinion'. And so this does not, once again, make me an 'oracle', as this is factual based.

So maybe I was a little firm in my wording, however if you met me you would see that that is not my style. But from seeing arguements on the net such as 'I never use counter-steering' and 'racers don't use the rear brake', I felt the need to emphasise some facts.

Sorry if I offended anyone by my posting, it was not my intention. Now lets shake hands, move on, and as you say 'there are lot of KB members who constructively, wittily and helpfully engage with others on this forum, and all power to them I say', so lets get on with it. Peace out.

[FROSTY:Me]

Before sailing off into panic mode here please just follow the steps probably already covered here.
1) remove the pads examine them to ensure there is pad material remaining

2) get a sheet of 600 grit wet and dry paper and lay it on a perfectly smooth flat surface. Get the paper wet.
3) put the pad surface on the sandpaper sand the pad untill the pad has a dull flat surface --use lots of water -it stops dust build up and removes the glaze from the pad. do this for both pads.
4) give the backing plate a quick sand as well as the edges of the plate.
5) using 800-100grit paper sand the rod/rods the pads slide on untill you have a smooth shiney surface with no lumps n bumps on it.
6) using coppercoat or similar HMP grease VERY lightly coat the rods and the backing plates of the pads -emphasis on very lightly.
7) using a drill bit of the correct size degunge all the holes in your disk--You use it as a HAND reamer
If after doing as above you still have squeaky brakes then Id look at pad compound or possibly a sticky piston.

About the brakes debate - Freddy merkle doesnt use back brakes-that was his style.
I use back brakes in the wet on the track as well as to stabilise the bike in a light braking situation.
I use the back brakes in the wet on the road in proportion to the front
If Im braking Very hard I tend Not to use the rear brakes mostly because I find that in combination with engine braking it destabilises the bike

[FROSTY:Me]

I'm sure I've read somewhere an argument against the use of the back brake in many situations. Something about application of the rear brake unloading the front and upsetting the bike, especially in a hard braking situation (eg end of back straight at Puke). When I did my first couple of track days there the guys in the braking school advised me to to tuck my right foot back up on the peg so as not to be tempted to dab the rear brake AT ALL, and to rely solely on the front brakes. But then I'm no racer, and the advice given was at least partly for safety reasons: I think to avoid a situation where in a possible "senior moment" while hauling 200kgs + of bike plus my own (not-inconsiderable) bulk down from 250kms/hour that I jumped on the rear brake, then on the front, then both or neither, while trying to downchange frantically to scub off speed, causing the rear tyre to lock up and lose grip and front to dive alternately and spitting myself off into the paddocks...oops...I forgot...I already did that once....

Kerry --I'd suggest to you that the advise was correct for YOU on that day.
I think its all about information absorbsion.
I'd suggest that for you that hairpin came up bloody fast and the temptation then would be to stomp on the brakes -possibly over cooking it.
For a seasoned racer it doesn't seem to come up as fast so there is time to think about track position,braking points proportion of brakes etc.
So for them its a well informed decision as to how much rear brake and why