These should be compulsory

[sosman]

what a stupid farken idea,I personally dont have a problem with bicyclist on
the on the road,just usless tossa's txting when driving

[disenfranchised]

Cyclists really upset you that much?I think that would be rediculous......!!! wer'e supposed to be encouraging cyclsts stop trying to punish them for being green and getting exercise, I don't ride a bicycle but hell I don't mind if during their manually powered trip they break a couple of rules good on them.....we all bend the rules a little at times.....besides theyr'e only generally gonna hurt themselves (I said generally!!!!).....just my 2cents, and just for the record the way some people on here complain about cyclists I hear a lot of cagers saying similar stuff about us, we aren't angels and far more dangerous to others than them.

Generally I agree that they don't cause a problem, and are out of the way enough to barely notice....but there's a few things they do that irk me.

Namely...

lane split at annoying slow speeds down long straight sections of arterial road without checking behind them, giving any kind of indication, etc... I reckon if they had mirrors, then they might realise more about what the traffic around them is doing, as well as realise if they're holiding up another road users.

move to the front of traffic at red lights, and go halfway out into the intersection. This still doesn't really give them enough of a headstart to get out of the way, unless they can go ona crossing signal.

having a queue of bikes split up the left of a combined left turn of straight ahead lane....when you're turning left, and all the bikes are going straight ahead...they just don't seem to pay attention to the fact that you're indicating and are at the front of the lane...hence have right of way.

not indicating at all...I can't think of the last time I saw a cyclist use a hand signal. generally they're concerned enough about keeping themselves safe that they don't get in your way...but there are a few nutters out there.

I didn't realise they devices weren't legal....I don't think they should be...they'd make indicating easier for the cyclists to do...which might make them more likely to actually follow the road rules.

[steved]

Point 1 - Those indicators are far too close together for their meaning to be understood from any distance, all you'll see is a flashing light and lots of bikes use them just for a basic being seen function.

There is a white light in the middle of the front indicator and a red light in the middle of the back indicator. This will tell others which side of the indicator is going, just like on motorbikes.

[MisterD]

There is a white light in the middle of the front indicator and a red light in the middle of the back indicator. This will tell others which side of the indicator is going, just like on motorbikes.

You don't understand much about what the human eye can resolve do you? There's a reason most jurisdictions specify that direction indicators must have a minimum separation...400mm in Aussie, I believe.

[007XX]

I think it makes a heck of a lot of sense...especially since more and more cyclists are being seen at night. The arms signals are not always that visible.

[firefighter]

maybe they should be required to wrap up in cotton wool first too.

[MisterD]

I think it makes a heck of a lot of sense...especially since more and more cyclists are being seen at night. The arms signals are not always that visible.

Then this is a much more sensible solution

[007XX]

Good call MisterD...that is pretty good indeed.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Well that's just it...they don't do the arm signals...but if they had to have light indicators fitted, they could probably remember to move their thumb before cornering.

But enforcing would be good...especially the red light running rules

An electronic indicator isn't going to make no difference if they don't use the rules in the first place is it...

Enforcing cyclists (of all ages) to to abide by the road rules should be done yes... just as any other road user...

[xwhatsit]

lane split at annoying slow speeds down long straight sections of arterial road without checking behind them, giving any kind of indication, etc... I reckon if they had mirrors, then they might realise more about what the traffic around them is doing, as well as realise if they're holiding up another road users.

Mirrors?! Hell, even motorcycles shouldn't be required to have mirrors. Waste of time.

I normally give a gentle toot in that situation. 95% of the time they're considerate enough to GTFO my way. If I had loud pipes I'd probably just rev the engine.

[steved]

You don't understand much about what the human eye can resolve do you? There's a reason most jurisdictions specify that direction indicators must have a minimum separation...400mm in Aussie, I believe.

So motorbikes like Suzuki RGV150 and Kawasaki ZZR's have external indicators in Australia? These two bikes have indicators that are very close to one another.

[MisterD]

So motorbikes like Suzuki RGV150 and Kawasaki ZZR's have external indicators in Australia? These two bikes have indicators that are very close to one another.

Dunno - the reason I came across this issue was in connection with the legality or otherwise of the new "Lambretta"

[avgas]

haha those lights are ugly.
Fuck giving cyclist indicators - hazard lights is what they need.
Automatic brakes would be better.

[steved]

Then this is a much more sensible solution

That looks very cool. I wonder what it will cost if it ever goes commercial?

[Waylander]

They'd make indicating easier for the cyclists to do...which might make them more likely to actually follow the road rules.

*points at his last post in this thread*

If a cager or even some motorcyclists can't be bothered moving their thumb an inch why would a cyclist be any different?