Go Labour!!!

**Clockwork** · 29th April 2008, 10:20

Originally Posted by MisterD

To paraphrase for the hard of thinking (aka Labour voters):

Tax payers breed tax payers, beneficiaries breed beneficiaries.

One would need to be a working tax payer to qualify for WFF would one not?

Who's doing the thinking for you?

**ManDownUnder** · 29th April 2008, 10:28

YAY.

Anything that puts my tax into non contributing people's hands, makes sure that infrastructure built up with public funds is sold, and maxmises the amount of tax I pay while encouraging the use of private health, security and education gets my vote...

NOT

**MisterD** · 29th April 2008, 11:13

Originally Posted by Clockwork

One would need to be a working tax payer to qualify for WFF would one not?

Who's doing the thinking for you?

Ok, ya got me, pedant. Care to address the real issue - dependency breeding dependency? The sheer arrogance of Cullen and Clarke in believing they know how best to spend my money for me makes me sick...and there's obviously nothing that scares them more than the thought of independence being encouraged in the voting populace...

**Lias** · 29th April 2008, 11:43

Originally Posted by Clockwork

One would need to be a working tax payer to qualify for WFF would one not?

No, you dont. I know someone on a benefit who gets several hundred a week from WFF.

According to the WFF website, the $$$ you get is in 4 parts, only one of which is "work" tested.

**Clockwork** · 29th April 2008, 11:43

Originally Posted by MisterD

Ok, ya got me, pedant. Care to address the real issue - dependency breeding dependency? The sheer arrogance of Cullen and Clarke in believing they know how best to spend my money for me makes me sick...and there's obviously nothing that scares them more than the thought of independence being encouraged in the voting populace...

That's a bit glib isn't it? Can't you just pretend that all your taxes are spent on only the things that are important to you such as health care, Police, roads etc.

On the other hand if really do want to live tax free and you can find such a society then I'm sure they'll welome your contribution.

**Number One** · 29th April 2008, 11:52

WFF is an effing joke!

If I wanted anything from it - I'd need to pop some more sproggs and go back to one income...we are too rich you see...such crapola.

Working for families seems to only "work for some"

**The Pastor** · 29th April 2008, 11:57

gst should be removed from basic foods. bread butter milk cheese maccas etc

also gst should be removed from petrol.

and motorbikes

**Clockwork** · 29th April 2008, 11:59

Originally Posted by Lias

No, you dont. I know someone on a benefit who gets several hundred a week from WFF.

According to the WFF website, the $$$ you get is in 4 parts, only one of which is "work" tested.

Hmmm the way it reads to me is that only one component FTC is available to all. But I stand corrected, who'ld have thought those beneficiaries with kids might need more money than those without!

Originally Posted by Number One

WFF is an effing joke!

If I wanted anything from it - I'd need to pop some more sproggs and go back to one income...we are too rich you see...such crapola.

Working for families seems to only "work for some"

So you think WFF would be a good idea... if you qualified? Jesus, there seems to be enough people pissed off that its paid at all, without making it available to everyone.

**brendonjw** · 29th April 2008, 12:07

So what about giving a helping hand to those of us that are single and working, we still have expenses too and they keep on going up, just because i dont want to be iresponsable and bring a child into the world that i may not yet be afford to give a good upbringing too. Across the board tax break as far as im concerned, not just targeted to one group

**Winston001** · 29th April 2008, 12:14

Forget about tinkering with GST. NZ is one of the few countries in the world with a simple sales tax system. The moment you introduce exceptions, you introduce accountants and plenty more work for them. Nothing against accountants mind, its just unnecessary complexity to make exemptions.

**Winston001** · 29th April 2008, 12:17

How about a simple tax cut - the first $7000 earned (include welfare benefits) tax-free. No WFF. The low paid have more in the hand, no incentive to have more children than you can afford, WFF bureacuracy red tape removed.

**Swoop** · 29th April 2008, 12:20

Originally Posted by brendonjw

Across the board tax break as far as im concerned, not just targeted to one group

A tax break??

Under labour??

I'm still waiting for the "packet of chewing gum" the liars promised us at the last election.

Unfortunately, some stupid idiots thought it was real and actually voted for the maggots.

**Morcs** · 29th April 2008, 12:22

I hate governments that take heaps of money from the honest, and give to the people who cant be arsed working - sorry, are in hardship.

**Number One** · 29th April 2008, 12:23

Originally Posted by Clockwork

So you think WFF would be a good idea... if you qualified?

NO - what I was saying is that I think it is a joke fullstop! Even if I qualified it wouldn't go very far to helping things...I have yet to meet a family that does get that assistance who thinks it is 'terribly helpful'.

O and to be more on topic - Removing GST on food SHOULD happen!