Go Labour!!!

[idleidolidyll]

do you really think it will be better under national?

when it comes to selling NZ to the lowest bidders, national has first prize and will take every opportunity to do it again.

already they have said they will subsidise a private foreign company (telecom) to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars with tax payers money.

wait a while and the sale of NZ will become even more rapid.

if ya want it to stop, vote green, winnie or perhaps act but don't for a moment suggest that national is less likely than labour to sell our assets 'cause that'd just make you an obviously ignorant dikhed

[Skyryder]

do you really think it will be better under national?

when it comes to selling NZ to the lowest bidders, national has first prize and will take every opportunity to do it again.

already they have said they will subsidise a private foreign company (telecom) to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars with tax payers money.

wait a while and the sale of NZ will become even more rapid.

if ya want it to stop, vote green, winnie or perhaps act but don't for a moment suggest that national is less likely than labour to sell our assets 'cause that'd just make you an obviously ignorant dikhed

Key has only promised not to sell assets first term of Govt. After that's it's all on. In financial circles Key was known as the Silent Assassain. He has not the politicl skills for this at the moment but the mindset is the same.

Skyyrder

[oldrider]

Would you buy a used motorbike off any of the political parties that are offering themselves to you to manage your country for you?

I recommend you think "very" carefully before you make your commitment to entrusting them with your and my security at election time this year!

I find it difficult to find any of them that are worthy of my support!

I am still looking very hard though. I guess there is always hope! John.

[limbimtimwim]

Ireland cut both company and personal tax rates dramatically many years back. Companies flooded into the economy and employment rocketed. They are considered the economic tiger of europe for their radical and very successful aggressive policies.

It wasn't that simple, though they did cut company taxes to something really low, like 10%.

They also received large subsidies from the EU, opened their borders to migrant workers (From within the EU anyway) and have proximity to both Europe and to some extent the USA.

NZ doesn't attract subsidies from offshore, has locals scared of immigrants and we don't have 400 million people within farting distance to buy our stuff.

I'm not saying there are not lessons to be learnt from Ireland, but our situation is a bit different.

In my opinion NZ needs clever politicians with their eye on the big picture who are not trying to justify their existence with reactionary policy.

[rainman]

Would you buy a used motorbike off any of the political parties that are offering themselves to you to manage your country for you?

Only the Greens. But it'd probably have to be a pushbike then

I find it difficult to find any of them that are worthy of my support!

My problem exactly - the only lot worth anything in the trust and integrity stakes are the Greens, although it would be a real stretch to have them managing the country.

[Brett]

I personally disagree with removing GST from food goods. Having in the past administered the GST Act I can assure you it would be a nightmare to do this and it has caused many an issue in Aust (GST) and the UK (VAT) and adds cost to administering a more complex regime due to complexities around definitions of what falls in or out of the GST exemption. Removal of GST also promotes price rises, thereby often eliminating the benefit to the consumer and improving profit margins for the companies.

I recommend a reduction to all the personal tax rates and increases in the tax thresholds to most effectively provide more cash to those that earn it and also reduce the burden on those on Govt Super.

Both the resulting savings and spending are taxed (providing govt revenue indirectly instead of directly), through RWT and GST and is no more inflationary than the Govt spending (Stick that up your bum Cullen!) our taxes on burgeoning state services and govt ministries full of overpaid bureaucrats and non professional "managers" achieving bugger all towards better education or health services.

Ireland cut both company and personal tax rates dramatically many years back. Companies flooded into the economy and employment rocketed. They are considered the economic tiger of europe for their radical and very successful aggressive policies.

I second your motion. Especially after reding Don Brashes article in the Herald this morning. Normally he can be a bit of a dick, but he is right about GST being a nightmare accounting wise if it is removed only from food items. I also feel it needs to either come as a form of tax credit where the person themselves can get a tax credit on the income tax based on how much GST they spent on food for the tax year. Obviously, this moves the onus of recording the GST to be submitted for credit from the shop owner to the individual. That or just a general tax reduction.

[What?]

Anyone remember when GST was 10%?
Ever wondered why it went up to 12.5%?
Simple fact is, 7.5c of every 10c brought in went out in administration.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that cutting GST off food would necessitate an increase in GST on everything else.

As for general taxes;
* let us not forget that it was Labour that slashed the top income tax rate from 66% down to 39%
* income tax in NZ is reasonably low by most standards
* that the gummint has a budget surplus does not mean that the nation has spare cash (there is a small matter called National Debt)
* what a wonderful economic model many people have thinking that we should have better health care, better education, better roads etc etc etc, and pay for all this with a tax cut...

It is a simple, but very straight fact that you can not have your cake and eat it too.

[munterk6]

Blah blah blah f@#king BLAH!!!!
Its all the same ol rhetoric coming from the same ol liars over and over again.
NOTHING CHANGES!!!!!
Meet the new Boss....same as the old Boss.
The ONLY way to get the politicians to listen is........



















STOP PAYING TAX ....for two weeks, yes thats right TWO WEEKS.
If we all pull together as a team we can have them on their knees begging forgiveness and asking us how they can help.
Do ya think 3 million tax paying sheep could be that organised?????
Problem is, eveyone is so enslaved (all self inflicted I may add) to the banks/financial system they cannot afford to stop working for two weeks...so we are our own worst enemy....
They need a short sharp shock to jolt them out of their arrogant belief that we are here for them, and remind them that they are here for us!

[Oscar]

Anyone remember when GST was 10%?
Ever wondered why it went up to 12.5%?
Simple fact is, 7.5c of every 10c brought in went out in administration.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that cutting GST off food would necessitate an increase in GST on everything else.

As for general taxes;
* let us not forget that it was Labour that slashed the top income tax rate from 66% down to 39%
* income tax in NZ is reasonably low by most standards* that the gummint has a budget surplus does not mean that the nation has spare cash (there is a small matter called National Debt)
* what a wonderful economic model many people have thinking that we should have better health care, better education, better roads etc etc etc, and pay for all this with a tax cut...

It is a simple, but very straight fact that you can not have your cake and eat it too.

What a maroon...
Just for now, we'll ignore your other dellusions and start with this bewdy:
"Income tax in NZ is reasonably low by most standards" - what did you measure it against?
The marginal rate is 39% as you mentioned, but this is nought to be proud of - do you have any idea what that does for the Australian economy? And even if Labour brought it down, they haven't moved the threshold in years, so we have enormous "bracket creep". Since the last election 150,000 extra taxpayers have moved into the 39c bracket.

[Oscar]

Bracket creep used to fund Labour spend upThursday, 27 March 2008, 1:30 pm
Press Release: New Zealand National Party

Bill English MP
National Party Finance Spokesman

27 March 2008

Bracket creep used to fund Labour spend up

National Party Finance spokesman Bill English says people on the average wage are paying more and more tax to fund Labour's next round of election promises.

"Under Labour a growing number of New Zealanders have been hit with extra tax because their incomes have increased with inflation."

Mr English is releasing figures which show that while the average wage has risen by 29.9% in the past seven years, the amount of tax paid on the average wage at has gone up by 43.7%.

Anyone working harder in this country gets to pay proportionally more & more tax. Suckers.

[Oscar]

do you really think it will be better under national?

when it comes to selling NZ to the lowest bidders, national has first prize and will take every opportunity to do it again.

already they have said they will subsidise a private foreign company (telecom) to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars with tax payers money.

wait a while and the sale of NZ will become even more rapid.

if ya want it to stop, vote green, winnie or perhaps act but don't for a moment suggest that national is less likely than labour to sell our assets 'cause that'd just make you an obviously ignorant dikhed

So we should stick with the idjuts we've got, rather than risk more idjuts?
Who said the $1.5b is going to Telecom, you moron?

[Robert Taylor]

So we should stick with the idjuts we've got, rather than risk more idjuts?
Who said the $1.5b is going to Telecom, you moron?

The reality is the goalposts need moving a hell of a lot more than just for the sheer satisfaction of removing the smirk off Cullens face. Those at the very top and those at the very bottom are in their own ways ripping the system, and of course that includes the international banking system and mulitnationals that we are all subservient to.
Personally I would favour a totalitarian system for a handful of years to rattle this country back to some sort of reality, if it is possible to do so without corruption.

[idleidolidyll]

Key has only promised not to sell assets first term of Govt. After that's it's all on. In financial circles Key was known as the Silent Assassain. He has not the politicl skills for this at the moment but the mindset is the same.

Skyyrder

Yep, the first term will be spent planning what to sell and the next two terms will be selling whatever they can to subsidise short term gain in tax cuts as they destroy social welfare and social services

only dreamers and the ignorami really believe national won't sell NZ out to whoever they can

[idleidolidyll]

The reality is the goalposts need moving a hell of a lot more than just for the sheer satisfaction of removing the smirk off Cullens face. Those at the very top and those at the very bottom are in their own ways ripping the system, and of course that includes the international banking system and mulitnationals that we are all subservient to.
Personally I would favour a totalitarian system for a handful of years to rattle this country back to some sort of reality, if it is possible to do so without corruption.

seig heil!

Robert Taylor votes for fascism

why am i not surprised?

[idleidolidyll]

So we should stick with the idjuts we've got, rather than risk more idjuts?
Who said the $1.5b is going to Telecom, you moron?

grow a brain stupid, i said 'subsidise' telecom

why the fuck should tax payers spent 1.5 billion so that private foreign owned companies can charge us for the services we build with that money?