Go Labour!!!

[idleidolidyll]

Yes, the GOP and the current yank admisistration have labelled themselves as 'Compassionate Conservatives'

Here's some news from their latest 'victories':



UNHCR Iraq Situation: Supplementary Appeal 2008 (January 2, 2008)
According to this report by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), more than 4 million Iraqis are currently displaced from their homes, including 2.2 million inside of Iraq and up to 2 million refugees. Neighboring countries are restricting Iraqis right of entrance and those already resettled are unable to gain the residency status to work. Although UNHCR is implementing changes to reduce assistance wait times, Iraqi refugees must often wait up to two months after registering to receive any help.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unindex.htm#unhcriraq

at least they're not amongst the millions dead since the Bush's started killing Iraqis; compassionate eh?!


Letter to the Security Council on MNF Detention Practices in Iraq (April 28, 2008)
This Human Rights Watch (HRW) letter to UN Security Council members expresses concern that the Council-mandated Multinational Force is holding a large number of detainees in Iraq for lengthy periods without judicial review. HRW calls on the Security Council to "insist" that MNF practices conform to international human rights law.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/torture/2008/0428hrwletter.htm
Human rights? No thanks, were compassionate conservatives....................

[idleidolidyll]

Well here's one way..................

Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon's Hidden Hand (April 20, 2008)
New York Times reveals that the Pentagon groomed a 'media Trojan horse' of retired military generals to appear as "objective" specialists in mass media and shape public perceptions in favor of the administration's terrorism policy. Many of these "analysts," which Fox News, NBC and CNN employed, worked as lobbyists for military contractors and held positions at defense firms that sought Pentagon contracts. This article argues that an "implicit trade of privileged access for favorable coverage" between military analysts and Department of Defense has destroyed the dividing line between government and journalism.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/media/2008/0420hiddenhand.htm

[idleidolidyll]

These guys and those like them do. In fact they use that funding to pulll the strings of policy..................

Monsanto's Harvest of Fear (May 2008)
Monsanto, originally a chemical giant with a dubious environmental and public health record, has recast itself as an "agricultural company" with a mission to "make the world a better place for future generations." Monsanto claims that its genetically modified (GM) seeds can improve crop productivity, "alleviate poverty, and feed the hungry." This article discusses the company's aggressive efforts to maintain its monopoly in the global seed market and consequently, its enormous control over world food supply. (Vanity Fair)
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/trade/gmos/2008/05harvestfear.htm

desite their new found social conscience, if you trust abusers like this, you're asked to be ass fukked. By the way, on social and political indicies, National is a wannabee GOP.

[idleidolidyll]

Of course it bloody hasn't, globalisation was always a policy wrapped in compassionate conservatism designed to fuck over the underprivelaged in favour of the well heeled.

both labour and even more so national have signed up to this farce

Spreading the Benefits of Globalization (March 26, 2008)
Increasingly, the public, economists and development analysts are questioning whether globalization has delivered on its "promised benefits." Various reports show a trend of increased inequality in the world, between the North and the South, but also within both poor and rich nations. The author concludes that a tiny group at the top of global society reaps the rewards of globalization, while the vast majority of people miss out. He supports drastic re-distribution from the top down, such as increasing income tax for top earners, and eliminating income tax for those earning less than a given average national income. (World Economy & Development in Brief)
http://www.globalpolicy.org/globaliz...0326spread.htm

[idleidolidyll]

"Compassionate Conservatives" have been screwing native people for centuries.

Climate a "Life and Death" Issue for Native Peoples (April 24, 2008)
During the 7th annual meeting of the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, indigenous leaders urged UN member states to adopt the "Universal Declaration on the Rights of the Indigenous Peoples" into domestic law. The UN General Assembly passed this resolution in 2007, but as this body is unable to make resolutions legally binding, many indigenous communities still have no formal rights over their territory and resources. Consequently, governments and transnational corporations harm native peoples, making extensively use of their lands and forests. (Inter Press Service)
http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/sovereign/sover/emerg/2008/0424lifeanddeath.htm

"Compassionate Conservative" is better identified as "do it our fucking way or else we'll kill you"

[Hitcher]

Is all this from The Conspiracy Theorists' Gazette?

[idleidolidyll]

Is all this from The Conspiracy Theorists' Gazette?

Do you have anything from the "Ostrich's Gazette" to offer in contradiction or is a logical fallacy all you can manage?

[idleidolidyll]

there's a link with the post, do i need to lead you through it as well as to it?

you can take a horse to water................

[Manxman]

...there is a link, and I followed one of them only to find that it was a UN article, not a US government/admin article (GOP) as you implied (post #106).

Surely a man of your cerebral fortitude realises that there is a difference?

OK, all of the technicalities aside, what is your answer Idle? All I have seen, is someone shooting down everyone else's solutions and observations, without proposing an alternative, which in my mind is ever so slightly annoying. After all, it is far easier to complain against the establishment (retrospectively), than proactively offer real solutions to the world's ills...of which there are many - caused by both extremes of opinion.

C'mon, I think a few people here would be interested to hear your stance on what the alternative is. Is it a world driven by the repressed nations, or a strict muslim lifestyle?

...a world where everyone is equal? Pfft.

I have drawn two broad conclusions (if I'm allowed to, that is), that:
1) Robert et al, are from the real world of doers, and
2) you are from the world of theorists/thinkers, which don't get me wrong is a not necessarily a bad thing, but only if you apply that theory to real world and make a positive contribution...

There's an election coming up in November

I sense my first red rep coming up in 3....2....1....

[Mully]

Yes, the GOP and the current yank admisistration have labelled themselves as 'Compassionate Conservatives'

If I was to label myself a fire engine, it doesn't make me a fire engine.

[Pussy]

If I was to label myself a fire engine, it doesn't make me a fire engine.

Quick!, someone call Norman an ambulance
















"Norman's an ambulance"

[Mully]

Quick!, someone call Norman an ambulance
"Norman's an ambulance"

"You must spread some rep, etc"

[idleidolidyll]

If I was to label myself a fire engine, it doesn't make me a fire engine.

Why thanks you

Tayor labelled himself a compassionate conservative; I suggest the same answer applies

the Yanks claim to be a democracy: I suggest the same answer applies

National claims to care: I suggest the same answer applies

[idleidolidyll]

oh dear manxman, just because you've missed all my suggestive posts doesn't mean they're not there.

in fact i've made many suggestions, given many examples and posted references and links to data so you can educate yourself.

please don't bleat to me if you missed it and don't for a second expect me to repost everything

[idleidolidyll]

Is all this from The Conspiracy Theorists' Gazette?

The same old bullshit seen so often in so many places: when you are unable to counter the information; attack the messenger.

I suppose you believe nothing that's not on Faux News, printed by corporate media or specifically endorsed by the propagandists you subscribe to.

Here's some help for you and others like you: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-oldliberalmedia.htm

yes, it's largely based on the Yank example but only fools and the propagandists themselves suggest it aint happening here too.