Anti-smacking bill petition where do I sign?

[rphenix]

I hear on the radio that the Anti-smacking bill is short of 1,500 signatures to force a referendum now my only question is where do I sign? Can't seem to find info anywhere.

[judecatmad]

I hear on the radio that the Anti-smacking bill is short of 1,500 signatures to force a referendum now my only question is where do I sign? Can't seem to find info anywhere.

http://www.familyfirst.org.nz/files/CIR%20MAY07.pdf

Go here, print it off, sign it, send it back. ASAP.

[scracha]

http://www.familyfirst.org.nz/files/CIR%20MAY07.pdf

Go here, print it off, sign it, send it back. ASAP.

So it would be more of a "pro smacking" bill? Hell, I'm all for battering children...never did me any harm

[RDJ]

Actually, it would be more in the nature of having parents take responsibility for their children's upbringing rather than delegating it to the Government.

[Big Dan]

I hear on the radio that the Anti-smacking bill is short of 1,500 signatures to force a referendum now my only question is where do I sign? Can't seem to find info anywhere.

I think KB should have its own refarendum

rphenix any chance you could add a poll

[LilSel]

I thought they said 18,000 on the news??

Have to be enrolled to vote for your signature to 'count'

[Skyryder]

I thought they made themselves look like a right bunch of dickheads. Bunch of clowns looking for their fifteen minutes of fame.

It's a dead issue. Not even U turn Key is going to run with this one.



Skyryder

[skidMark]

So it would be more of a "pro smacking" bill? Hell, I'm all for battering children...never did me any harm

Prettymuch, they need punishment when they fuck up or they will wild im not saying beat the crap out of them.

a clip across the head/ spank on the bum puts a kid in line pretty quick though.

Makes them associate fucking up with pain....

Means they fuck up less.

[Big Dan]

Prettymuch, they need punishment when they fuck up or they will wild im not saying beat the crap out of them.

a clip across the head/ spank on the bum puts a kid in line pretty quick though.

Makes them associate fucking up with pain....

Means they fuck up less.

but that will teach them that if they see something stuff up as adult then they might then think they can hurt that person

[Lias]

I thought they made themselves look like a right bunch of dickheads. Bunch of clowns looking for their fifteen minutes of fame.

It's a dead issue. Not even U turn Key is going to run with this one.



Skyryder

Its a much more important issue than campaigning to free a scumbag looser from jail

[Skyryder]

Its a much more important issue than campaigning to free a scumbag looser from jail

Is this the best response you can come up with, the right to hit your kids as you choose as against advocating the freeing of an innocent man from jail??

Skyryder.

[ManDownUnder]

Is there a time limit on how soon the remaining signatures need to be collected?

I've signed it and would love to see it gog forward but I also understand it goes against one of the UN charters. PC at a global level, and the Govt would be frowned upon by the international community, risking sanctions of whatever sort... i.e. they'd be scared to do it - preferring to annoy the voters instead.

Is that the real reason for not going forward with it?

Harold reports it's 15,000 short...

[MisterD]

Is this the best response you can come up with, the right to hit your kids as you choose as against advocating the freeing of an innocent man from jail??

Skyryder.

The future upbringing of thousands of kids versus one bloke in prison? I'd say Lias has it right.

[Skyryder]

Is there a time limit on how soon the remaining signatures need to be collected?

I've signed it and would love to see it gog forward but I also understand it goes against one of the UN charters. PC at a global level, and the Govt would be frowned upon by the international community, risking sanctions of whatever sort... i.e. they'd be scared to do it - preferring to annoy the voters instead.

Is that the real reason for not going forward with it?

Harold reports it's 15,000 short...

As I understand the time limit may run out before this could go into a general election referendum. Saw something on the news about this but in all honesty did not take too much notice. There are time factors involved.

With all due respect to those that believe in overturning the Anti S bill it simply is not going to happen. National have voted in favour of the legislation and it was changed to accommidate their views. They are not going to change that no matter what or how many voters sign. Their political credibility will be open for all the world to see.

The organsers of this petition have cocked up. One of the basics that you do before presenting a petition to Parliment is to check that all the dots and I's have been crossed. These guys in their egerness did not bother to do that It's not that they did not have the volenters or the numbers, they just did not bother to check. Dumb dumb and stil dumb.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

The future upbringing of thousands of kids versus one bloke in prison? I'd say Lias has it right.

Of course that's providing it's not 'you' in prison and innocent.

And there is a lot more to bring up kids than having the right to hit them.



Skyyrder