Gordon Copeland is an arse

[ManDownUnder]

I feel that figure would be ALL firearms deaths, not just hunting related ones.

I've been to more suicide shootings than all others put together.

Scummy - gut feel - how many hunting deaths a year in NZ? 2 or 3?

Edit - that's 1.1 per year for a period of 10 years (which ten are not specified) from guncontrol.org.nz
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Though an awful tragedy, Leathwick's death in 2003 is one of just 11 fatal hunting accidents to occur in the last 10 years in New Zealand, which, for the high number of guns owned by Kiwis, has a remarkably good record for gun safety.

[Mikkel]

Was it you throwing out the TLAs before? Not bad from someone that's never gone near one. Any idea of their range, effects, ideal targets and weaknesses?

Let's start with an RPG.

TLA? Never heard of that gun...

RPGs rocked in Duke Nukem 3D - I've learned that you shouldn't fire into a wall if you yourself is within close proximity of said structure.

[vifferman]

I'm not sure that banning even this game would make up for your lack of parenting.

Gee - thanks for that!
Perhaps - since you seem to know all about good vs. bad parenting - you could give me some helpful hints? Or given that after being a parent for nearly 25 years, I'm lacking in skills, and know nothing at all about living with an autistic, stubborn, and very, very difficult, depressed and sometimes suicidal person, you could come and visit and show me how it's done?

I've got it! When I come home, after he's spent five or six hours GrandTheftAuto-ing, and he's swearing at the screen, I should calmly turn the power off? (He'll probably smash summat, but it's only stuff, right?)
Or maybe I could swear back at him, scream a bit, give him the bash, and he'll calm down?

Or quietly ask him to calm down?

Bribe him?

Mace?

Electric cattle prod?

Throw a bucket of water over him (and the PS3)?

Feel free to interject with ideas - I'm just throwing these out there because I haven't a clue, lacking in parenting skills as I am...

[ManDownUnder]

Scummy, not too many figures easily found via google, but it appears somewhere between 40-80 gun related deaths a year, over half of which are due to pathetic hunters who can't even identify a target... and they were going to make a kill shot how? They're not hunters, they're murders waiting to happen.

err - see my post above. 1.1 hunting death per year doesn't quite stretch to 1/2 of 40 to 80.

worst case it's 2.75%

[Mikkel]

know nothing at all about living with an autistic, stubborn, and very, very difficult, depressed and sometimes suicidal person,

Fuck, I didn't know you were imdying's father...

[imdying]

Fuck, I didn't know you were imdying's father...

Hahahahah, bling for you

autistic, stubborn, and very, very difficult, depressed and sometimes suicidal person,

Blah blah blah, you know all that and still let them play GTA... nice one

[vifferman]

Blah blah blah, you know all that and still let them play GTA... nice one

Let them? WTF?!?

Blah blah blah blaw wibble gripe how do I stop them? They're all adults.

[imdying]

So what's your point then?

[skidMark]

The fact that people take a day off work to play a computer game just reinforces to me that the countrys fucked.

Jesus i figured that out when i was about 5.

[ManDownUnder]

So what's your point then?

look up - see that vapour trail? Pretty isn't it?

[98tls]

Jesus i figured that out when i was about 5.

you mean your not going to go there.

[imdying]

look up - see that vapour trail? Pretty isn't it?

No idea either huh

[Robert Taylor]

FPP, the last refuge of the childlike mentality that causes adults to throw their toys out of the cot because "they can't have things all their own way"

MMP is a system that demonstrably allows minorities to demand favours from the big parties who often rely on their support, forcing legislation on the majority who dont want such nonsense. Perverse.

[Usarka]

Democracy a system of government based on the principle of majority decision-making (dictionary)

MMP a system of government that allows minority to make law (usarkas definition)

[imdying]

Ok, so if some are able to process it as a game, and some can't, just like some shouldn't have guns, and some are fine with them, what's the answer? R18 that's actually enforced? A license to operate like a gun? Blanket banning because some can't handle it I (obivously) don't agree with, not least of which is because it just won't work.