Question for the Police amongst us - Is it all too hard now?

**Winston001** · 2nd May 2008, 11:37

I was talking to a retired police officer who is enjoying life teaching youth groups. He said that many officers, particularly the experienced ones, were leaving the force because they were worn out.

I have the impression that policing today is just too hard. Our laws such as the Bill of Rights have made effective policing impotent. The other aspect is offenders are more violent and physically hard to deal with.

The result is young officers become hardened and cynical themselves to cope with this, which might explain why some police officers act arrogantly.

**Headbanger** · 2nd May 2008, 12:11

I would have thought arrogance would be what lead them to the job in the first place.

**rachprice** · 2nd May 2008, 12:37

Haha I would have thought that with one a dude I knew he used to be a bit arrogant but he has actually got a lot better since being in the police force! From some of his stories it seems (like most people I know) you treat them like shit you get treated like shit, are you nice and they are somewhat lenient.

**scumdog** · 2nd May 2008, 13:09

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I would have thought arrogance would be what lead them to the job in the first place.

In that case I would have never joined...

**Usarka** · 2nd May 2008, 13:12

Originally Posted by scumdog

In that case I would have never joined...

too hard to answer the original question?

**CookMySock** · 2nd May 2008, 13:12

its all too hard mate. I'm giving up. Doesnt matter what you do.

DB

**Headbanger** · 2nd May 2008, 13:20

Surely the weapons, power-trips, creased trousers and cap, fast cars, writing out tickets for the poor, laying the smackdown on people, access to free drugs ,etc etc would make up for paying lip service to peoples rights?

**scumdog** · 2nd May 2008, 13:27

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Surely the weapons, power-trips, creased trousers and cap, fast cars, writing out tickets for the poor, laying the smackdown on people, access to free drugs ,etc etc would make up for paying lip service to peoples rights?

Unfortunately easily outdone with having to deal with slack-jawed thieving low life lying criminal loser toss pot wife beating drug using child-molesting unemployed leeches on society- that and too much beaurocracy, Bill of Rights and other frivolties which can tip the wheelbarrow over at times.

Getting away onbike rally or two and drinking piss/talking shit with those at said rallies helps keep me sane...most of the time.

**Winston001** · 2nd May 2008, 13:27

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Surely the weapons, power-trips, creased trousers and cap, fast cars, writing out tickets for the poor, laying the smackdown on people, access to free drugs ,etc etc would make up for paying lip service to peoples rights?

Of course, there has to be an upside, hadn't thought of those

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**peasea** · 2nd May 2008, 13:29

Originally Posted by Winston001

I was talking to a retired police officer who is enjoying life teaching youth groups. He said that many officers, particularly the experienced ones, were leaving the force because they were worn out.

I have the impression that policing today is just too hard. Our laws such as the Bill of Rights have made effective policing impotent. The other aspect is offenders are more violent and physically hard to deal with.

The result is young officers become hardened and cynical themselves to cope with this, which might explain why some police officers act arrogantly.

I know a bloke who perfd; he cited stress openly but quietly spoke of banging his head against a brick wall when it came to dealing with the big wigs. There was also some frustration with court rulings and lawyers who were too damn clever with technicalities. He wasn't/isn't an arrogant type but some of his workmates were/are.

Not all cops are arrogant but those that are certainly shine.

**peasea** · 2nd May 2008, 13:32

Originally Posted by scumdog

Getting away onbike rally or two and drinking piss/talking shit with those at said rallies helps keep me sane...most of the time.

That gives the impression you are actually sane.

Pull the other one.

**Odin** · 2nd May 2008, 13:39

I have some respect for the police force but have been disappointed of late. It seems they now have the mentality of us Vs. them. I don't think that is the right stance. They should not be looking to nail us at any time and they should show us the way rather than revel in the fact that no one polices them. How often do you see a cop car following to closely, not indicating or in other minor ways breaking the traffic laws. I would have more respect if cop's behaved more like our shepherds rather then looking to nail us anytime they can. Getting speeding tickets going 62 on a dead straight 50km road at 5:30 in the morning. I know I was in the wrong but there is wrong and there is wrong.

I was though VERY positively surpriced the other day when i was pulled over by a country cop (at least he lives out of the city). I had been a little heavy on the handle and had overtaken him and the truck in front of him (not noticing the lights in the black holden,

). He pulled me over had a talk and let me go. He could have given me a ticket for +20Km in an 80Km zone and i would imagine he could have dreamt up more charges but didn't.
There are still some good ones out there.

On the other hand i have had a ticket for failing to stop for a yellow light by a power crazed female cop.

rant over, sorry for digressing

**sunhuntin** · 2nd May 2008, 13:44

watching the cop shows last night, ya gotta feel sorry for some of em. cant remember which one it was, but the dude was pissed as a fart, refusing to co-operate with any requests, not taking the breath or blood tests etc. screw putting up with that. i was voting for him to be knocked out and do the tests that way.

**Tank** · 2nd May 2008, 13:48

Originally Posted by scumdog

Unfortunately easily outdone with having to deal with slack-jawed thieving low life lying criminal loser toss pot wife beating drug using child-molesting unemployed leeches on society-

OI..... No member of the public service can call people "slack-jawed thieving low life lying criminal loser toss pot wife beating drug using child-molesting unemployed leeches"

Now publish your badge number - or this goes INTERNATIONAL.....

On a more serious note:
I have the greatest respect for the police out there today. They have a hard and often thankless job - and the truth of the matter is that this country is absolutely full of the slack-jawed thieving low life lying criminal loser toss pot wife beating drug using child-molesting unemployed leeches that Scumdog mentions.

It must be painful having to deal with them on a day to day basis knowing that those pieces of shit who are out there doing the bad stuff generally have more rights than the cops who are out there trying to protect us from them.

Maybe - if the police were given more support and the assholes that they are arresting less rights and harsher sentencing - maybe then we wouldn't have 1/2 the problems we have out there today.

**Tank** · 2nd May 2008, 13:55

Originally Posted by Odin

I have some respect for the police force but have been disappointed of late. .......

I was though VERY positively surpriced the other day when i was pulled over by a country cop (at least he lives out of the city). I had been a little heavy on the handle and had overtaken him and the truck in front of him (not noticing the lights in the black holden,

). He pulled me over had a talk and let me go. He could have given me a ticket for +20Km in an 80Km zone and i would imagine he could have dreamt up more charges but didn't.
There are still some good ones out there.

On the other hand i have had a ticket for failing to stop for a yellow light by a power crazed female cop.

So the one who let you off was a good cop - and the one who ticketed you for running a yellow light was a power crazed bad cop?

But - a biker gets hit by someone running a red light and everyone moans about the cops doing nothing about it.

Therein lies some of the problem - everyone is selfish - and the coppers out there simply cannot win. Some say running a yellow is fine - good policing is letting them off. Its only bad if they hit someone - then its the same cops fault for not stopping them???