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[pritch]

Oh that would explain Jorge's huge high sides then...

Not really but it does explain how he got to be so fast so soon. Then he had a set back and perhaps thereafter tried too hard.

The traction control has made a difference, riders going from 250 to 800s now seem to adapt faster than riders going from 125s to 250s.

[racefactory]

i think that stoner is a muppet.
He just grabs a handful and lets the traction control do it for him, Rossie on the other hand rolls on nicley, has less gas applied than stoner, but jumps ahead anyway coming out of the corners.

i agree with you man. he is a bit. I've seen that so many times now on the onboard camera- just wide open throttle straight away. that machine is too good.

I don't think i've ever seen stoner properly out brake someone... only passing on the straights with the monsterous power of that bike. the team manager even says it's probably 20ps more than anything else out there. Melandri is way past his day so you can't go bringing that argument in.

Not saying stoner is a bad rider though...

please, bring back the 2 strokes.

well, stoner will not be winning it this year...

[Ivan]

Serious if he can do it and make it work for him then be that

I know if I had traction control like them and all the other electronic aids id just slam it full throttle you know the bikes gonna take it so why not?

Stoner also if you watch is a very cunning rider and knows how to play with other riders especially that mind game of straight line power and cuases riders to make errors its great,

I think calling him a pillick is a bit harsh I mean at least he got there to that level ment he did something right not like computor typers who have never raced a bike in there life and try and pick faults in every rider,

I know what it is like I get it here at club level racing some twat who never goes on track yet is a big mouth talker and trys to tell me how to ride my bike,

[racefactory]

lol yeah i totally agree with that- respect to stoner, absolutely. The english crowd's attitude at donnington towards him was absolutely disgraceful. I agree he will really regret saying those things about Rossi though....

You just can't help but get the feeling his TC is so much more advanced then everyone elses with those wrist movements! That's all.

Wasn't it amazing to witness the turning point so far with pedrosa going down in the wet? That was a big moment. Poor guy....

I wish we had more of a ''leading pack'' this year though. I mean- it's just rossi/stoner fighting and that's it. Pedrosa is gone.

[gav]

i agree with you man. he is a bit. I've seen that so many times now on the onboard camera- just wide open throttle straight away. that machine is too good.

I don't think i've ever seen stoner properly out brake someone... only passing on the straights with the monsterous power of that bike. the team manager even says it's probably 20ps more than anything else out there. Melandri is way past his day so you can't go bringing that argument in.

Not saying stoner is a bad rider though...

please, bring back the 2 strokes.

well, stoner will not be winning it this year...

FFS Melandri is 25 years old!!! Hardly past it, you'd think he could just whack the throttle open too, aye! Same with Elias and Guintoli, just twist it open straight away, what are they playing at?

[gav]

lol yeah i totally agree with that- respect to stoner, absolutely. The english crowd's attitude at donnington towards him was absolutely disgraceful. I agree he will really regret saying those things about Rossi though....

And do you know why the British crowd boo Stoner, not just this year but last as well?

[gav]

Not really but it does explain how he got to be so fast so soon. Then he had a set back and perhaps thereafter tried too hard.

The traction control has made a difference, riders going from 250 to 800s now seem to adapt faster than riders going from 125s to 250s.

How about Max Biaggi going from a 250 to an evil snarling 500cc two stroke, with no traction control etc? How did he do first up?

[Kendog]

Rossi was an atheist, until he realised he was god!

[racefactory]

And do you know why the British crowd boo Stoner, not just this year but last as well?

I thought it was because the english are so into Rossi and stoner winning on the better bike... but i realise that's not all there is to it...

why was that?

[roogazza]

You just can't help but get the feeling his TC is so much more advanced then everyone elses with those wrist movements! That's all.
[/QUOTE]

You'd have to believe that is the case. Everyone is saying the Duc is hard to ride and very different ?
Maybe its just so hard to get the head around having the electronics do everything for you ?
Imagine having the guts to nail it and to trust the electronics ?!!!! Gaz.

[roogazza]

I know what it is like I get it here at club level racing some twat who never goes on track yet is a big mouth talker and trys to tell me how to ride my bike,

Whats the matter Ivan, they picking on you ?

Maybe you are getting better and they feel a bit threatened, welcome to road racing ! gaz.

[enigma51]

but i realise that's not all there is to it...

why was that?

They are poms what other reason can there be?

[gav]

I thought it was because the english are so into Rossi and stoner winning on the better bike... but i realise that's not all there is to it...

why was that?

Nope, you heard of the Day of Champions that Donington runs before the GP? Most the GP riders are there and they auction stuff off for charity, Riders for Health etc. Seems Stoner hasn't been too popular with the crowd, refusing to sign autographs etc. This carried over to them booing him on the podium last year. Apparently this year he wasn't much better and didn't spend alot of time with the crowd either.

[svr]

Stoner, at 22, is reigning MotoGP world champion and at the absolute peak of the sport. Show some respect! Anyone that knocks his riding ability clearly has no idea. Think laying a 220hp motogp bike on its ear and `whacking open the gas' doesn't take 1. Balls 2. Self belief 3. Ability to optimize traction control setup 4. Skill ??
With Pedrosa out and Dovisioso `a year off', If it wasn't for Stoner taking on (and consistently beating) Rossi, the worlds greatest ever motorcycle racer, there would be no challenger and you knockers would be bitching about how boring it all is.
Thank god for Stoner.

[Cajun]

Though this was a good write up

In his 500cc/MotoGP career, Valentino Rossi has had three great rivals: Max Biaggi, Sete Gibernau, and now Casey Stoner. Getting beaten by a rider who isn't a long-term threat for a title doesn't bother him, he joins in the back-slapping and doesn't waste ammunition. Tiger Woods is exactly the same. When a one-hit wonder wins a tournament he's full of bonhomie, but not when the world number two triumphs. Rossi's attitude to and analysis of his three challengers is illuminating.

Max he characterizes as strong on a two-stroke but 'not a lot of problem' on a four-stroke. However, Biaggi had 'strong media power' and in the beginning that caused a few problems with the Italian press.

Gibernau, says Vale, was 'faster than Max and good on a four-stroke.' Sete's problem was that got too wound up before a race and arrived with "too much emotion and aggression, so he make mistakes.'

And Sete as a person? "At the start I think I like him, then I get to know him and decide I don't like him. But, you put Max's head on Sete..."

Which brings us to Stoner. "He is very, very fast, especially at the limit. He knows it and uses it—you need a great feeling for that.'

And Casey's ability to ride the Ducati that no-one else can master? Valentino spreads the fingers on both hands then brings them together so they interlock: "Perfect fit."

"However, he knows he is the best and therefore does not respect his rivals; I have to give him a problem."

I think it is safe to say that Valentino has done just that.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Aug/080828rn.htm