New excuse to lower the speed limit

[Usarka]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4513470a10.html

Hmmm, lets say we're doing it to reduce greenhouse emmissions!

[Hitcher]

Fucking bureaucrats!

[nodrog:Me]

fucking Hippies!!

[Hitcher]

Yeah. Burn them!

[Usarka]

Fuck it, I'm revolting.

[ManDownUnder]

Yeah. Burn them!

And the sooner the better. They eat beans, and lentils and things. They're probably the biggest methane producers of the lot.

[ManDownUnder]

Fuck it, I'm revolting.

I'm only "mostly disgusting", but working on it.

[riffer]

So a 10 percent reduction in speed creates a 1.4 percent reduction in oil consumption through an 11 percent efficiency gain.

Why are there no costs associated with other time-based inefficiencies discussed? I speculate they aren't considered in the equation.

[Pwalo]

Don't forget the proposed urban road and congestion charging being proposed as well. Just imagine the beaucracy that would be associated with that BS.

I'd also like to see the research that backs up the efficiency claim for 90kph. I'm sure that there was talk that the most fuel efficient speed for modern cars was around 110kph.

[Marmoot]

The discussion about the proposed speed limit reduction only masks the real issue that in reality this country is now being governed by a party which is only supported by 5% of the voters.

Just look at the example:
- anti-smacking bill
- prostitution reform
- fuel tax surcharge (proposed, delayed but not ruled out)
- speed limit reduction (proposed)

Find out why:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10508398

Amazing example of democracy.....

[WRT]

So a 10 percent reduction in speed creates a 1.4 percent reduction in oil consumption through an 11 percent efficiency gain.

I'd dispute these figures. 97 Legacy GTB's get 450k's to a tank on the open road when doing 100-110, but get 500k's when doing 120kph (not that I'd do that sort of reckless speed myself, officer). Might be different in autos, but in the manual the 100-110 bracket is too high rev'ing in 4th, and in 5th its too low - you can hear the engine labouring. Get up to 120 and it purrs along and uses NOTICIBLY less gas.

A lot of modern cars are set up for faster speeds on motorways, speeds of 120-150kph are not uncommon on European motorways (not sure about America or Asia), and so their gearing is not suited for optimum cruising at 100kph.

Note that I doubt this applies to older cars (mind you, a '97 is getting pretty old now) or vans/trucks/suvs/other un-aerodynamic vehicles. But they shouldn't be on the roads getting in our way anyway.

[Hitcher]

Don't forget the same mentality that thinks that cheesecutter barriers are OK is at play here as well. We are talking about serious wowserism.

[Big Dave]

And then seven or eight people turn up for BRONZ meetings.

[Usarka]

i cant even turn up to work on time.....


By this logic the auckland motorway should be a very low pollutant. traffic rarely gets above 60kph in peak times.....

[TOTO]

They wont dare lowering it. That will create even more traffic problems.