AMA Superbikes

**Crasherfromwayback** · 27th April 2008, 15:01

Just how hard do you have to ride a GSXR1000 to get to the top in AMA Superbikes? Ben Spies chasing Matt Mladin...no wheels in line here.

Spies is off to the GP's next year...but why Mladin wasn't given a ride years ago (yeah I know he rode a Cagiva in GP's when he was still in nappies) still has me scratching my head. He's 36 but still one of the hardest chargers on the scene. Tuff cunt too.

**jimbo600** · 27th April 2008, 15:26

He doesn't want to ride in GPs or WSBK. Reckons the money is better in AMA Superbikes. He'll always be a big fish in a little pond.

He is a tough cunt but by fuck he's one arrogant fucker too. Makes Foggy look like Tommy Chong.

**slowpoke** · 27th April 2008, 17:49

Yep, racing against Mat Mladin would have to be about the best career development you could get I reckon. If you can run with (and beat) that guy then you are something pretty special I reckon. I'll be watching Spies with a lot of interest next year.

Yeah, it's a shame we'll never see a Bayliss/Corser/Haga/Mladin battle, I reckon Mladin is right up there with the best Superbike riders in the world. The same goes for 500GP/MotoGP as even now with 6 AMA titles under his belt he makes no secret that he's still learning and finding ways to go faster. Unfortunately for us Suzuki have made offers to good to refuse, to stay in the States and fly the flag in their biggest market. Monetarily he's done extremely well but it's a shame the record books won't reflect just how good he is.

**enigma51** · 27th April 2008, 17:52

Originally Posted by jimbo600

He doesn't want to ride in GPs or WSBK. Reckons the money is better in AMA Superbikes. He'll always be a big fish in a little pond.

He is a tough cunt but by fuck he's one arrogant fucker too. Makes Foggy look like Tommy Chong.

its mental how much the janks pay there sports men and women not just in motorcycles but in general

**Crasherfromwayback** · 28th April 2008, 07:40

Originally Posted by jimbo600

He doesn't want to ride in GPs or WSBK. Reckons the money is better in AMA Superbikes. He'll always be a big fish in a little pond.

He is a tough cunt but by fuck he's one arrogant fucker too. Makes Foggy look like Tommy Chong.

Yeah he says that...but deep down I reckon he's quite bitter about never getting another chance at GP's. What racer wouldn't want to go there?

And you're quite correct about the arrogance. I've met the fucker, and he's a rude twat.

Watching him and Spies at Laguna before the GP last year was wild though. They are making everyone else in the AMA Suberbike class look G.A.Y.

**denill** · 30th April 2008, 08:31

Have I read and understood This Article: properly?

Are they chucking their toys outa the sandpit and not playing with Suzuki's Miladin and Spies?

**slowpoke** · 30th April 2008, 11:26

Originally Posted by denill

Have I read and understood This Article: properly?

Are they chucking their toys outa the sandpit and not playing with Suzuki's Miladin and Spies?

I'm not sure what you mean by "not playing with Suzuki's Mladin and Spies"....
from articles I've read it sounds like the are going to do away with the 1000cc Superstock class and tighten up the rules to have the big bangers somewhere between the current Superstock's and Superbike's.

It kinda makes sense as the Superstock bikes look almost identical to the Superbikes to Joe Public, and with someone like Spies riding then they are damn near as quick. By having cheaper bikes, and less bikes for manufacturers to support, it is hoped that we will have the best riders spread over fewer classses, with more top level bikes, and bikes that are easier to ride. They are hoping this will mean more riders battling at the front rather than the Mladin/Spies/Yoshi combo making everyone else look second rate as they do at present.

**denill** · 30th April 2008, 11:57

Originally Posted by slowpoke

I'm not sure what you mean by "not playing with Suzuki's Mladin and Spies"....
from articles I've read it sounds like the are going to do away with the 1000cc Superstock class and tighten up the rules to have the big bangers somewhere between the current Superstock's and Superbike's.

It kinda makes sense as the Superstock bikes look almost identical to the Superbikes to Joe Public, and with someone like Spies riding then they are damn near as quick. By having cheaper bikes, and less bikes for manufacturers to support, it is hoped that we will have the best riders spread over fewer classses, with more top level bikes, and bikes that are easier to ride. They are hoping this will mean more riders battling at the front rather than the Mladin/Spies/Yoshi combo making everyone else look second rate as they do at present.

So that's just saying that as we can't beat Suzuki - we will get the rules changed?

Isn't it??

**roogazza** · 30th April 2008, 12:45

Originally Posted by denill

So that's just saying that as we can't beat Suzuki - we will get the rules changed?

Isn't it??

Yeah, well just maybe, Bill ? Its the age old question of cost or so they reckon ?
Ducati got its way in WSB argueing cost and got rule changes (I see they're leading the series , strange that ?)
Superstock works though, it always has, maybe NZ will wake up and return to production racing one day. Gaz.

**denill** · 30th April 2008, 13:00

Originally Posted by roogazza

Yeah, well just maybe, Bill ? Its the age old question of cost or so they reckon ?
Ducati got its way in WSB argueing cost and got rule changes (I see they're leading the series , strange that ?)
Superstock works though, it always has, maybe NZ will wake up and return to production racing one day. Gaz.

Hey Gaz

Great to see ya back.

I guess it would be most interesting to see Miladin and Spies in the proposed formula.

Would love to see them wipe the oppositions arses there too...............

Cheers
Bill

**Crasherfromwayback** · 30th April 2008, 14:24

The rule makers in the AMA seem like a bunch of ill informed retards.

All of the top racers over there want to race SUPERBIKES. It's the top of the tree, and they're the fastest nastiest things they can race there. Move the rules closer to WSB and leave it alone.

**codgyoleracer** · 30th April 2008, 15:43

Seems to me that the "global credit squeeze" is even affecting the big guys as well. Proddy bikes (Superstock) are more than specatacular enough when ridden by these very quick individuals. + the closer relationship to the street machines has got to be good for the average punter to be able to get out there & race with the big names & big teams. (most still wont get within a bulls roar anyway......).
Wouldnt mind this format over this way as well .............or at least a privateer type "class within class" structure maybe ?.

**roogazza** · 30th April 2008, 19:42

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

Seems to me that the "global credit squeeze" is even affecting the big guys as well. Proddy bikes (Superstock) are more than specatacular enough when ridden by these very quick individuals. + the closer relationship to the street machines has got to be good for the average punter to be able to get out there & race with the big names & big teams. (most still wont get within a bulls roar anyway......).
Wouldnt mind this format over this way as well .............or at least a privateer type "class within class" structure maybe ?.

"Proddies' worked thirty years ago G, no one can deny that !
It could just work again ? 35 on a grid unheard of these days.
Of course the modern racer would want his compression and rebound in an Ohlins , so it wouldn't be a true proddy would it ? Gaz.

**oyster** · 30th April 2008, 21:48

Proddy racing is working just fine, right now. It's common to see 35 plus on the grid. Come on, the classes you want, Streetstock and Pro Twin are right under your noses....