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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxman View Post
    Pffft. Wind the clock back however far you like and there will always have been comments that the world is overstocked with humans.

    Funny though, cos we always seem to get by, either through technological innovation, farming efficiency or some other smart invention through the ages.

    Isn't the problem around who is in charge? Unfortunately, the people who need food the most have dipshit leaders, who couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag and have no idea about providing for their people, or managing the population through improved sex education/contraception, etc.

    Slightly off topic, but yesterday I came across an article that said back in 1972, Time Magazine (no less) was publishing articles about how the world's most eminent scientists were worried about - guess what - global cooling!!! and how we all were heading for imminent demise (flared trousers and all). Does the theme sound familiar? Oh, they also said that there was no proof that humans were the cause of this (one theory was that it was caused by comets - no shit ).

    So, where's the proof the we're causing global warming? Hang on, that last sentence assumes that global warming is a fact... I say: who conclusively knows this, particularly given how scientists have sort of been wrong in the past (flat earth, global cooling, etc)? Heck, we went through a Little Ice Age between 1500 and 1800, where the Thames froze over for 2 months and ice was 11 inches thick. Methinks nature has more control over the planet than we give it credit for and has its own way of re-balancing things...

    I'm a sceptic (did ya guess). After all, who really knows what is happening and what the real causes are. Maybe there aren't any and it's all a natural cycle...after all who caused the last Ice Age???? And the subsequent global warming (cos that's what it would have felt like, relatively, if you'd been living in an igloo in the middle of Edinburgh at the time)???

    This ETS thing is fundamentally flawed in my opinion and simply another means of extracting $ out of taxpayers pockets into this, and other, government's pockets - thereby becoming the first global tax in history.

    Dr /thingy/ was on telly the other day saying it was a rort and that it could cost NZ between 20 and 80 BILLION dollars in the next 30 years, depending on how quickly this government sign us up...and guess who's paying? You and me and our kids. Bloody good onya mate for challenging the assumptions that are put in front of us as fact.

    Sure, live less wastefully, more responsibly and more socially. That's great, but you & I aren't going to change the world. Fact. There are problems closer to home on that front - just have a look at the of the road next time you're a passenger in a car or on a bus/coach. The plastic bags, bottles, big mac packets parked up in the gutters and grass verges in good ol' 'clean, green' NZ is nowt short of a national disgrace (I'm really into the rant thing now, eh?). That's something we can change.

    There aren't enough people who query and challenge these dangerous assumptions - and that's because the social 'climate' isn't right (although I believe the pendulum is swinging back) and it's simply too easy to accept the latest trend. For every doomsayer, there'll be one (only less vocal, cos it ain't fashionable) that says it isn't so.

    I'm more than happy to do my bit if someone can objectively and conclusively prove it to me...
    I agree with the above and think this preformance is just a bunch of old hippies from the 60s actually realising that "make love and not war" has caused a problem but trying to make excuses. Mother nature goes in cycles and I have read that this global warming has occurred before. Would be kool if we had another ice age and that would help with the over population for sure. Just need one of those eyes on the storm to come over here like out of the movie The Day After and I'll happily wheel myself outside for a gander and some ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargor View Post
    Yea, this is an issue that we as a civilization need to address.
    Tui moment.
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    Simple solution - eliminate everyone who doesn't have a motorcycle licence.

    And eliminate all other forms of transportation (except motorcycle carrying boats and planes... so we can get to Sturgis).

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    There is a simple solution. It is called eugenics. All it requires for success is dogged determination and political will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    There is a simple solution. It is called eugenics. All it requires for success is dogged determination and political will.
    And preferably not getting caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz View Post
    be a good start getting rid of all the zuki riders......... then honda........... then yamaha........... Leaving the kwakas to rule the world..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    And preferably not getting caught.
    It's preferable to dupe, I mean persuade the majority of voters that it just makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    And the entire world's population could fit in the state of Texas with room to have each family its own house and section...
    Texas area = 678051 sq km
    World population from the pop clock = 6,667,082,993
    Sq Km's per person resulting = 0.000101701 sq km
    ... = 101.70100 sq meters
    ... = a box 10 and a bit sq m per side. Cosy.

    Hmmmm. You might need some of Oklahoma too. And maybe some space to grow some food. And some primary industries. And places that make and sell the things that you use to build the houses. And workplaces for jobs to pay the mortgages. And recreation spaces. And... a long list besides. What you posted seems to be saying, "don't worry, there's PLENTY of space and not too many people" in a lighthearted and half-ridiculous manner, and allows us to dismiss the overpopulation/resource issues unexamined.

    This lecture is worth a watch - 8 parts on youtube though. I think there's a transcript about, maybe this one here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Texas area = 678051 sq km
    World population from the pop clock = 6,667,082,993
    Sq Km's per person resulting = 0.000101701 sq km
    ... = 101.70100 sq meters
    ... = a box 10 and a bit sq m per side. Cosy.

    Hmmmm. You might need some of Oklahoma too. And maybe some space to grow some food. And some primary industries. And places that make and sell the things that you use to build the houses. And workplaces for jobs to pay the mortgages. And recreation spaces. And... a long list besides. What you posted seems to be saying, "don't worry, there's PLENTY of space and not too many people" in a lighthearted and half-ridiculous manner, and allows us to dismiss the overpopulation/resource issues unexamined.

    This lecture is worth a watch - 8 parts on youtube though. I think there's a transcript about, maybe this one here.
    Somewhat lighthearted, granted, but not in any way intending to lightly dismiss the mess the world's in and the need to do something about it.

    The world is currently, or was a few years ago from reports, producing enough food to feed 13b people, yet 1/5th of the world is starving and the problem is getting worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Somewhat lighthearted, granted, but not in any way intending to lightly dismiss the mess the world's in and the need to do something about it.
    My apologies then, I'm obviously in too serious a mood today...
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    If everyone who are willing to die for their faith did I'm sure we'd be getting somewhere along the right track.
    It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    My apologies then, I'm obviously in too serious a mood today...
    Sokay, I got a wierd sense of humour at times...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    If everyone who are willing to die for their faith did I'm sure we'd be getting somewhere along the right track.
    Yeah, funny thing... everyone wants to go to heaven but no-one wants to die..
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    Just thought of these suddenly, but these headlines might make valid points:

    - United Nations anti-war stance to blame on global food crisis
    - World Peace primary cause of overpopulation
    - Sudanese government commended on population control method
    - Government on Food Shortage: we need more genocide!
    - Miss Universe sends wrong message to World
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    If everyone who are willing to die for their faith did I'm sure we'd be getting somewhere along the right track.
    lmfao Mikkel


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Just thought of these suddenly, but these headlines might make valid points:

    - United Nations anti-war stance to blame on global food crisis
    - World Peace primary cause of overpopulation
    - Sudanese government commended on population control method
    - Government on Food Shortage: we need more genocide!
    - Miss Universe sends wrong message to World
    Yeah that's kinda what I was digging at in the original post. At what point will the critical mass of the worlds population be "comfortable" with the above headlines.
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