Wireless Internet -help-

[arj127]

I'm having some trouble connecting a wireless repeater into my network system. I have a normal cable router connected to a wireless router which works sweet as, but I want to extend the range around the house with a g710 repeater that I have purchased. Not having much luck so far, has any had experience with this? Help

[CookMySock]

you will be far better served to put your money into a bigger and better antenna for your access point. http://gowifi.co.nz

DB

[arj127]

I have added a 5dbi aerial to the wireless router, but it didn't really help a lot. Trying to get from one end of the house to the other.

[scracha]

I have added a 5dbi aerial to the wireless router, but it didn't really help a lot. Trying to get from one end of the house to the other.

Yep, done a couple. Start off by putting the repeater next to the original wifi router. Follow the config wizard and see if it picks up the signal. If it can't manage that then it's fucked.

I can't believe you need a repeater in a single house though. You must have a mansion. Have you tried cheap directional antennae's like the TP-Link Yagi ones? Also try channel 1 or channel 11 (or maybe even 13 :-) on your wifi config as you may be getting interference.

[CookMySock]

I have added a 5dbi aerial to the wireless router, but it didn't really help a lot. Trying to get from one end of the house to the other.

No, you are right, it won't. You need something with some nuts, like this http://www.gowifi.co.nz/products/ant...rectional.html

While you are at it, sell that access point on TM and get a proper one ;
http://www.gowifi.co.nz/products/acc...nt-bridge.html

And mount it along with your router up in the roof space. That should effortlessly cover your whole neighbourhood, no sweat.

Don't muck around with cheap consumer junk if you need real results.

DB

[-df-]

WAG200G
http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_10574.html

Not 100% sure on the specs of this, but I purchased one a month ago and have great reception all around my house and garage (haven't tried the lawn but sure it will work).

has 4 wired ports on the back and wireless built in...and only costs $130 for the ADSL2 modem.

and on a side note...my internet speed increased when I switched to this (but then my old one was crap).

[avgas]

Hmmm why do you need a repeater?
The linksys stuff is good quality. My one seems to get ok signal 100m from the house, through brick walls.
Pity vodafone cant get that lol

[CookMySock]

The linksys stuff is good quality.

No It isn't, its cheap consumer junk. Output power is about 60mW on the linksys, compared to 600mW on the ECB-3610S, and the reciever sensitivity is very poor. If you put the Engenius and that big antenna on a hilltop, you will get 20km range to it, or more.

I install this stuff professionally, so check with me first before buying. The bottom line is, use 600mW Senao, and a quality antenna. It will be a $400 install instead of an $89 one, but it will work, and it will work really well, and you will keep it for ages.

DB

[mowgli]

No It isn't, its cheap consumer junk. Output power is about 60mW on the linksys, compared to 600mW on the ECB-3610S, and the reciever sensitivity is very poor. If you put the Engenius and that big antenna on a hilltop, you will get 20km range to it, or more.

I install this stuff professionally, so check with me first before buying. The bottom line is, use 600mW Senao, and a quality antenna. It will be a $400 install instead of an $89 one, but it will work, and it will work really well, and you will keep it for ages.

DB

A few years back a mate and I set up a wireless mesh across our neighbourhood using Linksys WRT54G access points and SVEASOFT custom firmware with Wireless Distribution System. WDS halves the wireless bandwidth but that didn't matter because we were only sharing a crappy JetStream connection. Our biggest hop was about 350m chimney to chimney using standard antennae. At its peak we had five WDS nodes and, I think, a dozen end users. All the WRTs were set to no more than 55mW and we got excellent connections in all but the heaviest rain.

More power is not always the answer. Sometimes increasing power actually reduces signal quality. Imagine someone standing nearby - its harder to make out shouting than it is to understand regular speaking. Interference is a biggie though. Definitely try a few channels and see if that helps.

So while I can't agree that Linksys gear is crap I definitely agree that speaking to a professional will help. Spending a bit more on quality gear and professional advice is worth the money spent.

[CookMySock]

More power is not always the answer. Sometimes increasing power actually reduces signal quality.

Yup, because increasing the "power" lever in those custom firmwares didn't "increase" the power output at all. All it did was overdrive the output stage and made the transmitter occupy the entire eleven channels, instead of only the usual three. You can try this yourself with your old car radio, by increasing the volume slowly until it starts to starts to distort like fuck - this is the output of the WRTs. Now rotate the volume control fully clockwise and note there is no increase in volume or range whatsoever, rather, total mayhem ensues as the surrounding area is bashed into submission, soon to be followed by your radio or you being bashed into submission.

The old WRTs were so widely loved, because they were Linuxable. Thats all. Some of this affection somehow rubbed off onto its radio-link gear, but let me assure you, that is ill-founded.

The more modern stuff utterly pounds it in every respect. All access points will work across your lounge, into your kitchen, and through a wall or two. mostly, For more than that, you need some quality gear.

But I agree there was much fun had with the WRTs.

DB

[Ragingrob]

I've got a D-link wireless modem, one of the free ones from telecom, and the wireless doesn't reach my laptop in my room about 15-20m away ...

Would something like this improve the wireless reach by much at all?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/N...-154534340.htm

or

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/N...-153521942.htm

Cheers.

[inlinefour]

I'm having some trouble connecting a wireless repeater into my network system. I have a normal cable router connected to a wireless router which works sweet as, but I want to extend the range around the house with a g710 repeater that I have purchased. Not having much luck so far, has any had experience with this? Help

Bin the lot and get a router with built in wireless. I did after running a bits and pieces set up and the change was amasing. No need to boost the signal and I think the neighbours could use it if they knew it was there...

[CookMySock]

one of the free ones from telecom

ahhh, heres your problem.

No, sell on trademe for $1res and buy a proper one.

DB

[Ragingrob]

ahhh, heres your problem.

No, sell on trademe for $1res and buy a proper one.

DB

So a better aerial wont do it? It make it to like 3m from my room but then I guess there are too many walls after that!

[CookMySock]

So a better aerial wont do it? It make it to like 3m from my room but then I guess there are too many walls after that!

well, its a 250cc access point, and you really need an 1,100cc one.

Yes, you CAN hot it up with a wild cam, big carbs, rowdy exhaust, big 14dBi antenna, and it will help a LOT, but you are starting at the wrong end of things.

With a quality professional access point, you might not even need the big antenna. And they are BIG too.

DB