Calling all Burgman owners

[insane1]

big burgmans are not that dull ,there designed to do a job and do it quite well,iv'e had 2 of them and in nearly 30,000kms no real problems.

[carver]

big burgmans are not that dull ,there designed to do a job and do it quite well,iv'e had 2 of them and in nearly 30,000kms no real problems.

no problems, just a boring bike, thats all im saying.

[insane1]

for us older more responsable riders there good for what they are and iv'e had 2 650 burgers and 2 250 burgers all up for the best part of 50,000kms .

[carver]

good on ya, its not about being responsiblr or mature, they are just not stimulating to ride

[MarkH]

no problems, just a boring bike, thats all im saying.

It might be what you're saying - but that doesn't make it true.
If you were saying "I don't personally find them exciting" then no one could say that you are wrong. But other people have different opinions like: "fun to ride", "plenty of power to do the job", "great little tourer", "ease of use makes this more enjoyable to ride", etc.

The fact is that the Burgman 650 scooters are very capable tourers and the CVT makes them fun in the traffic - so easy to open the throttle and surge past almost any car and quite a number of other bikes too.
When you read various different reviews on the maxi scooters you find that many reviewers are surprised by just how great these scooters are and very few find them "boring".

If you don't like these maxi scooters then why are you even posting in this thread?

[carver]

It might be what you're saying - but that doesn't make it true.
If you were saying "I don't personally find them exciting" then no one could say that you are wrong. But other people have different opinions like: "fun to ride", "plenty of power to do the job", "great little tourer", "ease of use makes this more enjoyable to ride", etc.

The fact is that the Burgman 650 scooters are very capable tourers and the CVT makes them fun in the traffic - so easy to open the throttle and surge past almost any car and quite a number of other bikes too.
When you read various different reviews on the maxi scooters you find that many reviewers are surprised by just how great these scooters are and very few find them "boring".

If you don't like these maxi scooters then why are you even posting in this thread?

because insane1 dragged me into it!

they are boring, and slow!
my DRZ400 will smoke a 650 burg anyday!

[MarkH]

because insane1 dragged me into it!

they are boring, and slow!
my DRZ400 will smoke a 650 burg anyday!

Wow - that's pretty crappy arguing right there!

Surely you would have to agree that your DRZ400 is boring and slow too? After all a Hayabusa would smoke that slow bike any day without even needing top gear! (would a Hayabusa even need 4th?) In fact the list of bikes that can EASILY smoke a DRZ400 would be fairly long. If this is your criteria for what makes an interesting bike then you would appear to have purchased the wrong one!

It still seems obvious that what you find interesting in a bike is different to what Burgman owners find interesting and YOUR OPINION of what is boring is not the same as everyone else in the world.

TBH
If I made a list of bikes that I would personally like to own - like a list of 20 bikes, or even 30 bikes - the DRZ400 would not be on that list. Do you think that makes your bike an undesirable one, or just a bike that is not to MY tastes?

[carver]

wow - that's pretty crappy arguing right there!

Surely you would have to agree that your drz400 is boring and slow too? After all a hayabusa would smoke that slow bike any day without even needing top gear! (would a hayabusa even need 4th?) in fact the list of bikes that can easily smoke a drz400 would be fairly long. If this is your criteria for what makes an interesting bike then you would appear to have purchased the wrong one!

It still seems obvious that what you find interesting in a bike is different to what burgman owners find interesting and your opinion of what is boring is not the same as everyone else in the world.

Tbh
if i made a list of bikes that i would personally like to own - like a list of 20 bikes, or even 30 bikes - the drz400 would not be on that list. Do you think that makes your bike an undesirable one, or just a bike that is not to my tastes?

good point
its just my point of view....
The drz could never be considered boring, well, nit my one anyway.
Standard ones are a bit bland

[Dave Lobster]

Funnily enough.. A DRz was second on my list of bikes to buy to commute on. If I didn't have to take a passenger, there'd be one in the garage now.

[insane1]

bullshit carver i never dragged you into anything you put your nose where it wasnt wanted so fuck off.

[carver]

bullshit carver i never dragged you into anything you put your nose where it wasnt wanted so fuck off.

no.......

ten char

[MarkH]

Today my new Givi windscreen arrived, I bought a new helmet and I went for a ride with my GPS cell phone giving me an accurate speed reading. I also filled up for the second time.

The Givi windscreen:
Yeah - anyone with the same scooter as me should buy one! Riding into the city I was doing 100kph (no faster, cause that would be illegal) and I had my visor UP, I didn't really feel the need to pull the visor down. With the old windscreen I used to flip the visor up at intersections and down above 40kph. I tried riding a little without my right glove - not much wind hitting my hands, I didn't try this above 50kph though cause I don't really like riding without all my safety gear. But I couldn't feel a lot of wind on my gloves at 100kph. I have read about cutting off 2 - 4 inches from this screen to allow a view over rather than through this screen - I don't think I will be doing that. I can sit up taller and look over the screen if I have to, this is probably an important safety thing. I am around 5'11" to 6' and the height of the screen is pretty much exactly what I want it to be. Maybe the more vertically challenged would want to cut some off so they could look over the screen when they need to.

My new Nolan 103 flip face helmet:
Very nice helmet, on my head it is comfortable. I love the internal sun visor that I can raise or lower while riding. I will have to wait until I can get the correct wire for my cell phone before I can test how easily I can take a call while riding. Music comes through OK with the multimedia wire connected to my phone.

GPS vs speedo test:
At 50kph my speedo reads about 55, at 100 it reads about 110 and at 125 it reads about 137ish. Fairly consistant at 10% over. I have managed about 155kph indicated on the flat prevously - I would guess that means 140kph actual. At 120 indicated I am doing 108-109kph actual - I will look at trying to keep at 120 or below on the open road to save me money on tickets. The handy thing is that this speedo inaccuracy is almost identical to my car's - not hard then for me to remember what the indicated speed really means.

2nd Petrol fill:
I had zeroed my 'trip meter A; when I first filled my scoot. I filled again to the same level and it took 10.34 Litres. Before resetting the trip meter I noted that it read 262kms and 25.0 km/litre. If the trip meter was correct then I would have needed 10.48 Litres - that's pretty damn close. I would have managed better than 25km/l but I did quite a bit of city riding with sitting at red lights and start/stop riding in traffic and so forth.

[timorang]

Today my new Givi windscreen arrived, I bought a new helmet and I went for a ride with my GPS cell phone giving me an accurate speed reading. I also filled up for the second time.

The Givi windscreen:
Yeah - anyone with the same scooter as me should buy one! Riding into the city I was doing 100kph (no faster, cause that would be illegal) and I had my visor UP, I didn't really feel the need to pull the visor down. With the old windscreen I used to flip the visor up at intersections and down above 40kph. I tried riding a little without my right glove - not much wind hitting my hands, I didn't try this above 50kph though cause I don't really like riding without all my safety gear. But I couldn't feel a lot of wind on my gloves at 100kph. I have read about cutting off 2 - 4 inches from this screen to allow a view over rather than through this screen - I don't think I will be doing that. I can sit up taller and look over the screen if I have to, this is probably an important safety thing. I am around 5'11" to 6' and the height of the screen is pretty much exactly what I want it to be. Maybe the more vertically challenged would want to cut some off so they could look over the screen when they need to.

My new Nolan 103 flip face helmet:
Very nice helmet, on my head it is comfortable. I love the internal sun visor that I can raise or lower while riding. I will have to wait until I can get the correct wire for my cell phone before I can test how easily I can take a call while riding. Music comes through OK with the multimedia wire connected to my phone.

GPS vs speedo test:
At 50kph my speedo reads about 55, at 100 it reads about 110 and at 125 it reads about 137ish. Fairly consistant at 10% over. I have managed about 155kph indicated on the flat prevously - I would guess that means 140kph actual. At 120 indicated I am doing 108-109kph actual - I will look at trying to keep at 120 or below on the open road to save me money on tickets. The handy thing is that this speedo inaccuracy is almost identical to my car's - not hard then for me to remember what the indicated speed really means.

2nd Petrol fill:
I had zeroed my 'trip meter A; when I first filled my scoot. I filled again to the same level and it took 10.34 Litres. Before resetting the trip meter I noted that it read 262kms and 25.0 km/litre. If the trip meter was correct then I would have needed 10.48 Litres - that's pretty damn close. I would have managed better than 25km/l but I did quite a bit of city riding with sitting at red lights and start/stop riding in traffic and so forth.

Good write up and my experience is exactly the same as yours regarding the screen (I am your height) and economy. The weather protection is great, and in the past few months i have not ridden my other bike at all. But once the weather improves the Burgman wil have to take more of a back seat. Its a neat bike.

[johnD]

Todate, there are 5 riders keen to do a 6 day trip from Akd around East Cape, Gisbourne, Napier, Wgtn, Wanganui, Taumaranui and home.
Plan to do it in 6 days 5 nights, either the 1st or 2nd week of Oct, depending on the weather. Ideal for any big bore scooter. Join part way through.
If interested add a reply to this thread. johnD

[MarkH]

So I am now noticing an occasional clutch squeal and I don't think I really want to bother with the Suzuki replacement. I am thinking about getting a Malossi Maxi Fly Clutch and while I am about it the J. Costa Variator.

I read up about the variator here: http://burgmanusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23549
It seems that with standard configuration the 0-100kph time would drop from 10.5s to 8.5s and that by removing some weights it could be improved even more. The Malossi clutch should engage and disengage better (more smoothly). For the sort of riding I am currently doing this could be quite a big improvement - after riding between 2 rows of cars to get to the front at the lights I want to get away pretty quick when the lights turn green. I don't think I will change the belt at the same time though - I am only up to about 5000kms on the clock, probably won't need a new belt till around the 24000km mark.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of work on a scooter? I think I would rather do most of my own work if possible which would save some considerable $ compared to taking it in to a workshop to have it done. I managed to change my windscreen OK. I might need to buy some sockets for my rattle gun though.