Need an IT job!

**myvice** · 4th February 2006, 16:06

My brother is looking for a new job in a help desk position or desktop support.
I know a few of you are in the trade so to speak, so if you know of any one looking can you PM me and I'll pass the info along.
Ta.

**Sniper** · 4th February 2006, 16:18

Where abouts is he wanting a Job?

**sAsLEX** · 4th February 2006, 16:29

EDS have just lost all there internal help desk people, my flatmates have just left there

on second thought that is the same building as bugjuice is in so maybe he should look else where

**Devil** · 4th February 2006, 17:40

Tell him to get out while he can.

**James Deuce** · 4th February 2006, 18:28

What Devil said.

Pump gas or something. Anything except becoming a minion of corporate whoredom. There is only one thing worse than slavery. Being enslaved by people who refuse to learn ANYTHING.

**Sniper** · 5th February 2006, 18:00

IT isn't that bad. I can teach my bosses things, it took a while and I learnt that threats don't work, but they have now learnt to fear.

**James Deuce** · 5th February 2006, 18:07

I've worked in IT for 20 years Sniper, and it IS that bad. There is nowhere to go in terms of career progression except up the IT chain which is a second string management chain. IT workers do not become CEOs of anything except technology companies, and then it is usually the technology company they started. Each move up the chain is great for reducing drastically the amount of personal time you have.

I'm lucky in that I work for an IT corporate, but all my other jobs have been with organisations that don't value IT staff input, underfund their information management and communication infrastructure, and make the CIO report to the CFO, thereby ensuring that a clueless dolt of a bean counter controls the technology policy. This generally results in the underinformed demanding the impossible of the underfunded. The resulting failed project then confirms how useless IT people are with money.

DO NOT enter IT if you value lifestyle over career. It is the worst mistake you can make.

**myvice** · 6th February 2006, 09:31

Originally Posted by Jim2

DO NOT enter IT if you value lifestyle over career. It is the worst mistake you can make.

Safe for him then, he has no life!

Originally Posted by Sniper

Where abouts is he wanting a Job?

Auckland, tho I should send him down to you... He could use a bit of a new perspective...

**Devil** · 6th February 2006, 13:08

Unfortunately I am stuck in the trap. I've spent too long working with people who are so stupid, that it has taken away my will to learn anything new. I think I am dumber than when I started so I dont know what else kind of job I can do now. I'm doomed.

**Cookie** · 6th February 2006, 13:18

Thanks Jim2. I just need to whip down to the store to buy some nice razor blades and then it's back home for a nice warm bath.

Everything you say has a true ring to it though.

I've got to say that compared with some other work, if you can hang on for a few years and dish out a bit of "three bags full sir" every now and then, the money is not too bad.

Unless you are doing cables all day, you go to work clean and come home clean. That puts it above say, meat works jobs for me anyway.

**Drunken Monkey** · 6th February 2006, 14:33

Originally Posted by Jim2

I've worked in IT for 20 years Sniper, and it IS that bad.
...
DO NOT enter IT if you value lifestyle over career. It is the worst mistake
you can make.

I disagree. I do very well in both lifestyle and career as a self-employed IT all-rounder.

**sAsLEX** · 6th February 2006, 14:37

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

self-employed

Would this be why you have had such a diff view on things? I would say so judging by jims hatred of corperate society.

**James Deuce** · 6th February 2006, 16:36

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

I disagree. I do very well in both lifestyle and career as a self-employed IT all-rounder.

Everyone's experience is different, and you certainly can ake a go of it if you have the right mental attitude, but the HelpDesk, Technical Support, Technical Management, Technical Consulting route is a hiding to nothing.

I'm only in it for the stable job thing. The money is, quite frankly, shit. You can make more as a policeman or a truck driver. BUt you get to 40, look back at a spectacularly unsuccessful career and wonder just what the hell you were prostituting yourself quite so hard for.