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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Yeah - what's with that. They have to be qualified, they work damned hard, and then all the school hols off on no pay.
    It sucks.
    Yep and they have to sit and watch incompetent teachers allow the class to run out of control. Its the lowest paid job she has had since uni but it fits in with my teaching job and the holidays so she just lumps it like all good women should .

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTFU View Post
    Yep and they have to sit and watch incompetent teachers allow the class to run out of control. Its the lowest paid job she has had since uni but it fits in with my teaching job and the holidays so she just lumps it like all good women should .
    Even T/As are appreciated paywise in Oz...
    The thing that rubs salt in the wound is that the hours are 25/pw, which is considered fulltime
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Just one big problem,the place is full of Australians

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    Quote Originally Posted by marioc View Post
    Just one big problem,the place is full of Australians
    Only round the edges....
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    20-30K will be going towards super i imagine. But the good thing is when you leave the job - you get a payout. Not wait till 65.

    Not so sure about the payout thing.
    I still have to wait for my Aus super until 60+ (unless you have a seriously strong reason for it now).
    Work payouts are generally related to layoffs/redundancies, but they can be very rewarding. (worked with an Aussie fitter who worked for Western Power untill redundancy/retirement packages were called for. He walked away with $400000+ in payout, plus super! Been there 35yrs though)

    Aus resources, and West Aus will continue to boom until China/India have had their fill, (2015-2020+). If your up to the challenge, it WILL be very rewarding financialy.
    I had my go, but would encourage anybody else to go for it before the resource cycle slumps again.

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    My partner and I are off to Aussie next month for a bit of a touring holiday. (Melborne, Adelaide, Brisbane).

    We have been talking and decided that while there we will both be looking at the employment opportunities over there.

    She is a District Nurse and I am a Network Engineer.

    Here we are struggling to pay the bills on our combined salaries. Living from payday to payday.

    Aussie is a very aluring proposition.


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    The pay is very good in Oz, have to work hard to get it though.
    Things are more expensive here, especially in Darwin, but you do not have to "keep up with the Jonses"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    Not so sure about the payout thing.
    I still have to wait for my Aus super until 60+ (unless you have a seriously strong reason for it now).
    I thought you could get it if you left the country permanantly??

    Bummer if not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    It's somethng Miss Mully and I have discussed. If Labour get back in (please, dear God no!!), it's a certainty.
    A heck of a lot of people are considering it, and that's now regardless of whether Helen Bubba teeth is staying or going...so my point at the bottom of this reply/ rant.

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Seconded - myself and g/f are a profession couple, but our spending money after rent and crap mean that we could buy a house buy 2050, let alone have kids. I have met unemployed people that make about 80% of my salary.
    Yep, I hear ya!

    Quote Originally Posted by jim.cox View Post
    I'm thinking about about moving too

    It used to be "why would you?"

    Now its "why would you not?"
    Sums it up nicely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al View Post
    The pay is very good in Oz, have to work hard to get it though.
    Things are more expensive here, especially in Darwin, but you do not have to "keep up with the Jonses"....
    I've never been bothered with hard work...heck, that's what I did picking fruits for a living up North when I arrived in NZ 14 years ago. Still made about $500 after tax per week. And back then, I could have bought a 3 bedroom house on a big piece of land bordering a pine forest for $125,000...*sigh* the beauty of hindsight, eh?


    The thing is...Even if National gets back in, how long do we think it is going to take them to clear the latest financial decisions from Helen and her click?

    I'm no economist, but I reckon 3 years is a pretty short amount of time to undo the damage. By which time (next election) the unwashed and uneducated masses will only see little change in the economy and might just re elect the Labour Party...But eh, I could be wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Been considering doing a stint over their myself to get a deposit for a house ,aint no chance im gunna get that here with everyday living costs going up ...everyday

    Bloody enticeing to just pack up and leave tho for that kinda money,specially at my age
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    Oddly enough, unlike most, it seems, I can't make more money, in terms of pre-tax income, in Australia than I can here.

    My own business is targeted at international clients via the interweb, so my location makes no difference to that, and in terms of local contract work to pay the bills, the rates I can get are about the same.

    Anyway, even if I could earn more over the ditch, I very much doubt that I'd be able to get my ex-wife to pack up and move just so that I could keep seeing my kids regularly while I worked a long-term contract in some out-of-the-way hellhole!



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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    20-30K will be going towards super i imagine. But the good thing is when you leave the job - you get a payout. Not wait till 65.
    Superannuation is based on 10% of your gross wage and is paid by the employer into a designated super fund. You can pay in more yourself, for which you get tax breaks.
    When you leave your job, or change jobs, the money stays in the fund.If you choose to retire, then you can take some money out - depends how much is in there.
    If you are a Kiwi and move back to NZ - you dont get any money out! - there is a reciprocal agreement over pensions
    Quote Originally Posted by 007xxx
    The thing is...Even if National gets back in, how long do we think it is going to take them to clear the latest financial decisions from Helen and her click?
    About 3 gazillion years. They won't! Their big business mates will get even richer - the average working stiff will still get shafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetBoy View Post
    Been considering doing a stint over their myself to get a deposit for a house ,aint no chance im gunna get that here with everyday living costs going up ...everyday

    Bloody enticeing to just pack up and leave tho for that kinda money,specially at my age
    Just Do It - bloody good idea - take the opportunity when you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    I thought you could get it if you left the country permanantly??

    Bummer if not.

    I think they had a rule change in the 90's, and I didn't plan on being back in NZ back then.
    Meh it's no big deal, as the super fund I'm in has had a stella grow spurt over the last five years or so.
    Should be a nice little nest egg in my wet fart years. (unlike that Kiwi Saver chump fund).

    As for Al's comment on the work effort, well, the first thing I was told about returning to NZ back in 99 was "you will work twice as hard, for half the earn". Boy, they were so right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    I've been considering Oz for a couple of months now...If labour gets in again, you can bet your sweet cantaloupe I'll be giving it probably more than just thoughts.

    I absolutely adore New Zealand. I feel at home here. But I am tired of having to fight tooth and nail to be able to afford the simplest things.
    If you leave, make sure you keep in touch with this site...your Avatars are quite something...

    BTW, hasn't been a new one for a coupla days...
    It's back..."Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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