Chris Kahui not guilty

[peasea]

Would you care to comment on the bloke (mothers boyfriend?) that out of the blue phoned up the police and told them the mother confessed and he had a recording of it?

This was during the investigation - i.e. well before the court proceedings.

Of course, by the time the police followed this up, it was something like six months (six fucking months!) later, and the bloke had deleted the recording as he (quite reasonably) assumed the police weren't interested.

What exactly is so 'inordinately difficult' about following up leads handed to you on a plate?

And yes, I may have some of the details incorrect, but I believe I have the general gist of things correct.

So much, probably too much, sensitivity was given to 'racial' placations. Sorry, but for anyone else (European, Chinese, South African) I doubt the delays would have taken place. Just an observation.

[Maki]

The police screwed up bigtime. Given the evidence Kahui should never have been prosecuted in the first place and our precious taxpayer money could have been saved instead of being flushed down the toilet in that ridiculous trial. Heads in the police should roll for this.

[Grahameeboy]

really strange that huh ...colonial .... and you blow it off as taking the whiteness out of you sorry are from oversea's,,,, humm so you have spent alot of time listening or just blowing them of as brownies , yea you spoke of some having more sensitivity than of what ? read between what you where in need of thought while in looking back now you realise some will take it differently is that what you were wanting ?

Not sure what you are saying...jrandom explained hence my explanation...

[doc]

...just I come from a non-PC culture...and sometimes to move forward we need to get over too much PC stuff sometimes...

Not blaming you but doesn't this PC Crap come from the EU, and the frigging Westminster legal system we adopted and further developed.

The fact the police have said they are not going to further investigate this case. Is the traversty of justice IMOA.

[Manxman]

I doubt it. The Police had inordinate difficulty trying to understand exactly what had happened here. You may remember the media coverage at the time that went on for weeks, with Maori Party MPs and others trying to broker a way through the wall of resistance the Police encountered. The family's collegial silence, stupidity and conspiracy to conceal the truth would have made any investigator's job unenviable. Remember that the case against Chris Kahui was the best they could do, and the outcome of the Court case was largely inevitable from the beginning.

This whole thing is a tragedy on so many levels. I have no doubt that the Kahui/King families know full well who was responsible.

It may sound heartless, but the late Chris and Cru have probably escaped a life of torment that no child deserves.

Know what?...You're absolutely right mate.

What were the police to do? Totally inevitable that it would end like this - darn, we could see this more or less from Day 1...or at least no later than when the "mother" (and I use the term in its loosest possible way) opened her mouth.

Trouble is, now every other loser now knows how to get away with murdering children...and the cops will get another unwarranted hammering from the media.

[Grahameeboy]

Not blaming you but doesn't this PC Crap come from the EU, and the frigging Westminster legal system we adopted and further developed.

The fact the police have said they are not going to further investigate this case. Is the traversty of justice IMOA.

More EU really which is why I don't consider myself European and I don't think most Brits give too much to PC...but then maybe it was where, how I grew up...

I just think that these days we are suppose to think before we speak to extremes and that we take offence too easily rather than perhaps saying why one is offended so the other person understand etc

[doc]

Dont wait until the 11th hour to repent - you may die at 10.30.

Is all I can say about the Kahui's

[Grahameeboy]

Dont wait until the 11th hour to repent - you may die at 10.30.

Is all I can say about the Kahui's

Indeed..................

[MyGSXF:Me]

R.I.P precious innocent little ones...

[doc]

The Police are going to need the might of HD Marketing to turn this around. The public are not satisfied with ; The Marlbourgh Sounds Case, Clint Rickard taint, Now this . And these are just the recent ones. Goes right back to The Crewe murders.

Forget about Speed Cameras, thats just public revenue by civilians in vans.

[Thunder 8]

The whole whanau should be locked up for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Right on totally agree.

[Tank]

Dont wait until the 11th hour to repent - you may die at 10.30.

Is all I can say about the Kahui's

its 8.36 now - Id be happy if they put a bullet in the bastards by 9.

As for repenting - scum like that don't deserve any forgiveness - eternal hell (or whatever there is) for people like them.

[Hitcher]

I work with a lot of Maori and they are often calling me "Colonial".."White Boy" and I take no offence...it's just micky taking

Perhaps. As long as it doesn't become habitual or institutionalised. I know how irritating it can get at times being the brunt of ginga comments, and my beloved riding companion is equally irked at incessant blonde jokes. After the 10th one, the humour pales.

I would have hoped that a parent with a disabled child would have been more tolerant of diversity in our community.

[McDuck]

Am i the only one that is a little fucked off that despite all the evidence that he didnt do it they still had a go at the farther because 'hes the dad it must have been him?'

[Phurrball]

Perhaps they should partake of Maori justice?

I think Maori tribal law held an even harsher view of infanticide, than European law.......

(Haven't had time to read the whole thread, so I hope I'm not repeating)

Quite right, based on what I learned in Jurisprudence a couple of years back -

Maori tikanga dictates a strict liability solution - SOMEONE has done the crime, so SOMEONE/several people will be held to account.

Failure of duty of care on the Whanau's part = probable consequences for all the babies' immediate family.

Nothing soft about it.

Not surprised by on the verdict - cops were expecting it too (At least the ones I went out with on SCOPE a few weeks back)

IMHO, the right verdict based on evidence/lack of definitive evidence - too much reasonable doubt. Criminal standard of liability is a very high threshold to reach, an dthe burden is on the prosecution to reach that high bar.