I know you are all sick of this topic (fuel prices) but...

[wickle]

yes fuel prices are crazy high but i am interested if anyone knows the bonafide figures of what the petrol stations pay for it and exactly what taxes and how much the stupid moronic greedy bastard government takes

approx 2003 break down of costs for 91 octane, Govt tax 50%, Opperaters costs 11%, Int shipping 4%, crude oil 35%.. Independent operaters usually donot own fuel till it has gone thru pumps and are debted next day for litres sold ,, approx 4.7 cents per litre including gst is what they are paid , most only really make real profit from shop sales .

[PrincessBandit]

And *I* remember ...

...Butter , by the way , for the housewives present, was 2/- (20c) a pound (500gm) for most of my youth.

I remember seeing an old Woolworths till receipt years and years ago whichhad 13c for a pound of butter on it - must have been on special!! Remember when milk was 4c a pint - geez and I was still at intermediate then!

good question actually

in britain its about 4.5 litres

in amerika its about 3.8 litres; remember this when some yank tells you how cheap gas is by the 'gallon' in yankerland

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On the radio the other day they were comparing petrol prices here with other "developed" countries, including the UK, Switzerland i think and others, comparing all in US $, and NZ was by no means near the top of the list in terms of "most expensive". Not that it makes it any easier to live with.
p.s. considering that dresses go down to size 0 in the states....I saw a size 2 on the rack in a shop the other day (obviously yank sizing) and just shook my head. A NZ size 10 is about a US size 4 for those who are wondering.

No but there are quite serious talks underway with most major franchise owners, to make PRE-PAY compulsory at all times of the day now...

Hmmmmm he goes, if they make it compulsory you might just have to unlock your fuel cap and bring in ya keys and then we can clear the pump...

Just a thought, but hey at least he is thinking of alternatives for bikers...

Not such a silly idea if it has to be done...

Rightyo. Well if they cant afford to put the gas in it they shouldnt have a car, it's quite funny how everybody seems to have a car, it seems the norm, they arn't a luxury item like in the 1930's etc.

Yet hang on people still got around, i believe they used a thing called legs. and bicycle, which also used thems new fandangled leg thingymajiggywhatjudermacallits.

Getting lots of news coverage lately - people "rediscovering" the humble push bike. What with all the hoo haa about obesity etc in NZ pushbiking and walking might have a renaissance!
Personally I'm wondering how long it will take for it to cost the same to fill my bike as it currently does to fill my car

[Hinny]

Personally I'm wondering how long it will take for it to cost the same to fill my bike as it currently does to fill my car

Two or three years ago I was shocked to see my truck cost $37 to fill.
I filled my bike yesterday...$56 !

American economic terrorists.

[EJK]

BP station makes more money out of Wildbean cafe's coffees.

[marty]

the shell in cambridge has been open for a month, and you can see the total litres sold on the pump.

in one month, one 91 pump has moved 1.0 million litres. i didn't look at the rest of them. there's 10 pumps, and there is almost always a que to get in there

at 05 cents/litre to the servo owner, that's not bad........

[pete376403]

http://www.shell.com/home/content/nz...cing_faqs.html
Undestandably this is written so that it puts Shell in the best possible light. Was listening to Net Rad last week about fuel pricing - one commentator said crude costs approx $US20 per barrel at the wellhead, and it is basically speculation by large financial organisations that is moving the prices onward and upward.

Nationals John Key would be just the guy to ask how this operates, he used to be a trader with Merrill Lynch in "offshore banking" (ie currency speculation).

[Forest]

http://www.shell.com/home/content/nz...cing_faqs.html
Undestandably this is written so that it puts Shell in the best possible light. Was listening to Net Rad last week about fuel pricing - one commentator said crude costs approx $US20 per barrel at the wellhead, and it is basically speculation by large financial organisations that is moving the prices onward and upward.

That's not true.

If people are speculating in oil futures, then at some stage they have to take physical delivery of their "paper barrels" or sell them to people who actually want them i.e. the refineries. This places fundamental limits on the prices at which oil is traded.


Edit - Some crude costs $20 at the wellhead. Some crude costs considerably more. However in all cases, major capital investment has been made for the extraction rigs and transportation infrastructure and it is the capital investment which is producing the profits.

If you feel that oil companies are making large profits, then you should buy shares in oil companies.

[ukbandit]

you guys should see some of this. im working on one now (not this minute)
had some good sucess but needs more work.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f