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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Too expensive for a good one.

    Don't mind them at all.
    nope that one on the list i showed you was in your price range well sorta but i am sure you can talk em down http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    edit: feck it apon closer inspection it seems like it's been race prepped so i don't know what would be needed to get her road legal.
    Please keep us informed of any test rides/info you find cause i might wanna upgrade to something similar. Cheers
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    Do you not get the original Fazer 600 over there? fine bike, much better than the Bandit or Hairnet

    Failing that...wot about some pink!!http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    or some Grunthttp://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    Go and test as many as you can.... and have fun
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    Juan beat me to suggesting the Fazer,massively popular in Britain with good reason.Similar performance to the Hornet but everything else is better,brakes are the same as fitted to the R1 and the motor`s a real gem.Biggest drawback with the Hornet is the fuel-consumption,which is diabolical.Fazer will go almost twice as far on a tank-full.Not just selling it because I`ve got one,I looked at the Hornet very closely before making my choice and never regretted it,nice bike but the Fazer`s better.
    Bandit`s a great bike for day to day use and there are thousands of happy owners,Hornet and Fazer will out-do it in every respect though and I`m a bit baffled as to why it`s on your list as you dont appear to like them anyway.GSX`s get slagged off by anyone who`s not actually ridden them,o.k. so some of the build quality isnt the best but they`re a lot of bike for the money,very,very cheap used though so dont bother with anything that`s not unless it`s way above average.FZR,brilliant bike but you`re doing your knees again,same reason I cant ride a sports bike.VFRs have great rep and odly the only model I`ve read bad stuff about is the 800 V-tec which seems like technology for the sake of it and even then it dosnt work particularly well,that`s way out of your budget anyway,dread to think what a neglected secondhand version would be like a few years down the line.750`s have "bullet-proof" rep,apart from reg/rectifier but hey it`s a Honda,very nice bikes and very popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aff-man
    nope that one on the list i showed you was in your price range well sorta but i am sure you can talk em down http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    edit: feck it apon closer inspection it seems like it's been race prepped so i don't know what would be needed to get her road legal.
    Please keep us informed of any test rides/info you find cause i might wanna upgrade to something similar. Cheers
    I thought it was subtle attempt to get me on the track!

    Thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan
    Do you not get the original Fazer 600 over there? fine bike, much better than the Bandit or Hairnet

    Failing that...wot about some pink!!http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    or some Grunthttp://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDe...as=bikepointnz

    Go and test as many as you can.... and have fun
    Cheers Juan. The YZF750 I'm looking at is effectively a dual seat SP. I'm after the rear subframe and seat pad so I can strap bags on you see. Lovely bike that one. It's been at Red Baron for a while and I beloeve I checked it out about 18 months ago!

    We never got the Fazer 600 here unfortunately.

    The XJR1200 never got a good review that I can find, from magazine's or owners. The SP was OK, but was shortlived and consequently held their price. The XJR1300 is a different kettle of fish altogether, but too expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moko
    Juan beat me to suggesting the Fazer,massively popular in Britain with good reason.Similar performance to the Hornet but everything else is better,brakes are the same as fitted to the R1 and the motor`s a real gem.Biggest drawback with the Hornet is the fuel-consumption,which is diabolical.Fazer will go almost twice as far on a tank-full.Not just selling it because I`ve got one,I looked at the Hornet very closely before making my choice and never regretted it,nice bike but the Fazer`s better.
    Bandit`s a great bike for day to day use and there are thousands of happy owners,Hornet and Fazer will out-do it in every respect though and I`m a bit baffled as to why it`s on your list as you dont appear to like them anyway.GSX`s get slagged off by anyone who`s not actually ridden them,o.k. so some of the build quality isnt the best but they`re a lot of bike for the money,very,very cheap used though so dont bother with anything that`s not unless it`s way above average.FZR,brilliant bike but you`re doing your knees again,same reason I cant ride a sports bike.VFRs have great rep and odly the only model I`ve read bad stuff about is the 800 V-tec which seems like technology for the sake of it and even then it dosnt work particularly well,that`s way out of your budget anyway,dread to think what a neglected secondhand version would be like a few years down the line.750`s have "bullet-proof" rep,apart from reg/rectifier but hey it`s a Honda,very nice bikes and very popular.

    Thanks Moko - As I said in response to Juan's post, we didn't get the Fazer 600 here. The Bandit is on there thanks to being beaten by several people who insisted I include it. I'll try and track down one to ride.

    I dug out a couple of Performance bikes magazines and an MSL or two, and I have to admit that the tank range is what puts me off the Hornet. The most anyone got from a tank was 110 miles (180km). That's Ducati territory!!

    The VFR I'm looking at is a one owner bike with the expected service history, plus the dude is older and the bike has only been used for tours and weekend rides in the main, which is why I'm considering it. The reg/rectifier issue is the same old "we forgot to design a heatsink for it so it doesn't get one" ostrich engineering that Honda indulge in from time to time. I'll be cutting up a copper heatsink from some defunct piece of computer equipment and gluing it on if I was to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon
    Pick up a yoshi GSXR11 (96) around your price range.

    Think they restricted in the carbs or came out with smaller carbs.

    I'm sure you know all about them, bullet proof motors etc.

    Still love them.
    gsxr1100 would be hard on the knee's i know i had an 96 gsxr1100 last year, very cramped up really,

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    I'd get a TDM,you get to keep using that great motor,have a more relaxed riding position to suit your...um,whatever,and have handling that may allow you to ride out things like a diesel spill with aplomb.Get your mindset out of it's rut,look at bikes you never consididerd before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    I have to admit that the tank range is what puts me off the Hornet. The most anyone got from a tank was 110 miles (180km). That's Ducati territory!!
    Thing is mate it`s not just the fact that it`s got a small tank but it really drinks the juice as well.I`ve seen reports of them doing about 32 miles to the gallon,and that`s average-gets really silly when they`re thrashed,which along with the stupidly small tank is ludicrous.Fazer averages 45 and I fill up every 180 miles or so.Makes the Honda far more expensive to run.Early ones have 16 inch front wheels which are not to everyone`s taste,later versions have bigger tanks but still not big enough and you`re venturing out of your price range by quite a bit.
    Bandit`s not a bad bike,just dated that`s all,very popular in Britain where you`ll hardly ever see a standard one.Early ones have the passenger pegs mounted straight onto the frame so check carefully for signs of crash damage as this has been known to bend frames after relatively minor spills.Honda build quality is far better than Suzuki which at least in the Brit climate makes a difference,probably not so much in N.Z.Bandit still sells new here with the 650 version just launched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    The VFR I'm looking at is a one owner bike with the expected service history, plus the dude is older and the bike has only been used for tours and weekend rides in the main, which is why I'm considering it.
    It's always a big plus having a good history like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    The reg/rectifier issue is the same old "we forgot to design a heatsink for it so it doesn't get one" ostrich engineering that Honda indulge in from time to time. I'll be cutting up a copper heatsink from some defunct piece of computer equipment and gluing it on if I was to buy it.
    Forget about doing that. Where it's located, it can't shed heat anyway, as the heat from the rear headers comes up on that side of the bike, and wafts up under the side cowling. You can either wait till it dies, then buy a proper R/R and relocate it, or put a heatsink on it and move it. You might be lucky and NEVER have problems - it does happen sometimes. By the way - a new, beefy R/R is $300, and is not that difficult to do, so it's no real biggie. They do occasionally fail in 'oversupply of voltage mode', taking out other components, which can be expensive, but it's more usual for them to expire quietly and your battery goes dead.

    My VFR750 was a 90, and apart from the R/R, I had no problems. The gearbox was a bit notchy, and the bike had a bad history, but the one you're considering sounds like a goodun. If you do buy it, somewhere down the line you may want to do the suspension, as it's built to a budget, but there are low-cost things you can do to improve it as is, like reverse the eccentric on the rear hub to raise the rear, and fit bits from a 600 to the front forks to improve damping etc. And there's LOTS of info available on-line for every conceivable problem or question you might have.

    My advice is to take your time choosing (unless an absolute bargain comes along) and test-ride as many bikes as you can. I know the VFR will be instantly comfy for you, and is a great all-rounder, but whatever you buy has to be summat that will do it for you, so any advice we give you could all be academic if the bike doesn't make you happy.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    You should have really put a poll up for this Jim2. But by my guesstimations the VFR is in the lead (rightly so in this case I think).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    You should have really put a poll up for this Jim2. But by my guesstimations the VFR is in the lead (rightly so in this case I think).
    Dang thing sold today (not to me).

    I did however ride the Hornet and GSX750F today, and got two surprises.

    See here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d=1#post139042
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Dang thing sold today (not to me).

    I wandered over to check it out and found Trevor with a customer looking at it,at first I thought it might be Gav as I heard him mention owning a CB and he said he might call in and havea look for you but when I asked him he said no,and now I see we have a new member from Chch today with a YZF750 hmmmmmmmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha
    I wandered over to check it out and found Trevor with a customer looking at it,at first I thought it might be Gav as I heard him mention owning a CB and he said he might call in and havea look for you but when I asked him he said no,and now I see we have a new member from Chch today with a YZF750 hmmmmmmmmmm
    Drat.

    Seems I am being steered in a particular direction by forces cosmic.
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    Hey Kickaha, what time were you there? I got there just before 10 and they werent open, The YZF was there then, but when I went back around 2.30 ish, there was no sign of it, thought maybe you had been in and taken it for a test ride? I took out the silver VTR Trev has there, very nice. The YZF600 is quite tidy hes got, but too higher kms for want Jim2 wants (around 43000km I think)

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