Van: Diesel or Petrol?

[NZsarge]

Damn straight, been noticing some MAD prices for diesel vans of late.


ps: STAY AWAY from Mazda & Mitsi diesel's in the late 80's early 90's. They are cheaper for a reason.

We've got an old Mitsubishi 2.5 non-turbo diesel van, gutless as but it keep on going and going, not the most economical diesel you'll ever see either, but that's the advances technology has made in the past 20 years I guess.

[Drew]

Beware the super custom!!! They have a box under the first row of back seats, and said box IS the floor. Meaning it dont come out, and your bike might not go in.

I have only looked at one like this, so dunno if they are all the same.

[rat biker 08]

I have a 2.8 it has 600/000 on the clock and runs great. Just keep the survice up to date all sweet.

[yod]

van diesel...is that Vin's brother?

[Boob Johnson]

van diesel...is that Vin's brother?

:slap:

[TimeOut]

do you think it may have something to do with the turbo.

2.8 = 68kw
3.0 = around 72kw
3.0 turbo 96kw
3.0 d4d commonrail 126 kw

Turbo could have something to do with it.
I was meaning the better fuel economy as well as the extra power.

[sels1]

We have been using 2.4 petrol Hiaces at work - great workhorses. We considered diesel but at the time was advised that if you were doing less than a certain amount of kms per year (I think it was 20,000) petrol was the best option, more kms than that then diesel was better. But now the fuel prices have gone crazy I dont know if that still applies.(or applies even more!)

We are now starting to move our fleet to Euro type diesel vans (Transit, VW, Fiat etc) so much bigger, safer, and more comfortable

[JimO]

Turbo could have something to do with it.
I was meaning the better fuel economy as well as the extra power.

my D4D hilux has twice as much power as my old 2.8 and is cheaper to run

[dhunt]

Well it's a pretty even split so far.

Am I correct in thinking a turbo diesel will not only give increased power but better economy? If so why aren't they all turboed?

[JimO]

i think you will find all the new ones are

[peasea]

With my van seemly on it's last legs (made in 1984). I'm sort of looking at upgrading it sometime in the next few months and wondering what to get. It always use to be that diesel was the way to go as cheaper to fill and more economical but is that still the way to go? It seems diesel is going up more in price than petrol and I assume that it may continue to do so.

Any thoughts? I will still go with a HiAce (preferably LWB). I would probably be looking at low to mid 90's as that's all I would be able to afford. Mostly it would be used to carts bikes to the race track and back so out of town ks.

For a work hack you can't beat a diesel HiAce. I used to work for Toyota and should be selling them, they are great machines for their purpose. Don't buy an auto and always change your filters regularly. make sure the cooling system is primo coz if they cook up you can kiss some serious coin goodbye.

[peasea]

Well it's a pretty even split so far.

Am I correct in thinking a turbo diesel will not only give increased power but better economy? If so why aren't they all turboed?

And increased bills.

Don't buy a turbo'd anything unless it's under 100,000kms and is mint. For what you'd gain in hp you'd be better to flag the turbo, go naturally aspirated and just hug the left lane on hills and get the longevity.

[Korumba]

I have had 2002 2.4lt turbo diesel Ford Transit got about 10km/l Great Van but cost a lot to keep on the road

Then got a 2002 3.0lt non turbo Toyota Hiace got 10km per lt in that as well excellent vehicle and no extra running/repair costs like the Ford piece of shit.

Check the Diesel registration cost they seem a lot more expensive that a petrol.

Personally I would now buy a petrol model.

[SPman]

Had a 2.4 diesel Hiace in NZ and it hummed along great - except on long hills, like out of Mangaweka.
Just had to replace the Econovan that shat itself and managed to find a 99 2.8 diesel Hiace LWB. - although, with the price of diesel skyrocketing ($1.71/l last week, $1.83/l this week....)
The 2.4 petrols are good, though and probably cheaper to buy.

[dhunt]

And increased bills.

Don't buy a turbo'd anything unless it's under 100,000kms and is mint.

So am I understanding you correctly a turbo requires more maintenance and can be expensive to fix?

For what you'd gain in hp you'd be better to flag the turbo, go naturally aspirated and just hug the left lane on hills and get the longevity.

Yeah my current Van is definitely on the gutless side of things so I'm already used to hugging the left lane.

Check the Diesel registration cost they seem a lot more expensive that a petrol.

This I don't understand. Why for basically the same vehicle one diesel, one petrol the diesel one costs more to register