The Great Global Warming Swindle

[ghost]

So, let's see if I got this right. You're suggesting that when mankind started burning fossil fuels in big quantities in around 1850, all that CO2 vanished somehow or other and at the same time CO2 was released into the atmosphere in large amounts by a natural process that hadn't occurred previously in the last 800,000 years and the C13/C12 isotope ratio decreased in the way expected if the CO2 did come from fossil fuels, to values that also haven't been seen before.

Yeah, I'll put that theory forward at a scientific conference and see if the science is settled.

Over to you, Dr Evil.

So if the industial era has caused heaps of co2 and co2 is the only contributor of global warming then why the fuck is green land covered in ice, today, now?

Was there previously no warm period on earth, was there previouly no cold period on earth.

Isnt if a fact that the warming and cooling on earth is a cyclical norm. Isnt it a fact that atmosphric co2 is about 0.04% by volume, how much of this is contributed to man?

If you removed all man made co2, would the climate stabalize?

Dont think so, why pay tax for it?

[ghost]

We wouldnt get it back Im sure

I Propose a new tax, its called Solar Depletion tax (SDT), anyone that uses the suns energy is thereby depleting this natural resourse and they should pay for it to discourage its use, on the basis that I can prove that taking heat from the sun is causing global cooling. here are some peliminary guidelines

1/ Anyone with a solar panel must now pay the SDT (solar depletion tax)
2/ Sunbathers must pay the SDT (nudists pay extra)
3/ Outdoor cafes pay SDT, using umbrellas reduces the SDT payed
4/ If you use the sun to dry your washing you pay SDT
5/ Farmers using the sun to grow grass pay SDT
6/ Outdoor events pay a standard per head SDT (refund 50% if it rains)

the list is still under construction, but my science absolutely proves that the sun has an effect on the global temperatures and mankind drawing this resource is having a effect on our planet if we dont act NOW we will freeze to death, maybe not us but our childrens children will !!

(all we need now is a famous movie maker and a has been dipshit politician, pay off a few scientists get some scare tatics a few news items and we are away, Dont worry Mr Keys sign NIWA over to me and I can guarantee 1 billion dollars of revenue for you per year , Oh and Mr Keys can you just pop over to conpenhagen to sign this bit of paper to for us eh ? there is a good lapdog)

NOW PROVE IM WRONG !!

Do i get a credit for my shiny head?

[Finn]

If you removed all man made co2, would the climate stabalize?

Don't hold your breath...

[Quasievil]

Do i get a credit for my shiny head?

Shit that's a thought, reflection throwing more heat into the atmosphere making (you guess it) GLOBAL WARMING !!!!! rooftops should be made illegal or made from some kinda non reflective material, shit wot about car roofs there are lots more cars to than when the Dinosaurs drove them around FORCING CO2 LEVELS TO 4000 PPM OVER TODAY'S 385PPM


Common Jelly just trying to break the boredom

[Badjelly]

What is causing the Global Warming on other planets that dont have SUVs, coal fired powerstations and aerosols?

What caused the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 55.8 million years ago here on little old Earth?

Why is the sky blue?

What is your point?

Aah, these are all imponderable questions for which we will never have an answer. Well, not for the last one, anyway.

[Badjelly]

Shit that's a thought, reflection throwing more heat into the atmosphere making (you guess it) GLOBAL WARMING !!!!! rooftops should be made illegal or made from some kinda non reflective material, ...

Common Jelly just trying to break the boredom

You should know that I have no sense of humour and am always earnest.

Actually, people are seriously suggesting that we should all paint our roofs white (that's a reflective colour, not a non-reflective one) to reduce global warming.

You see, not a glimmer of a smile from me.

[Badjelly]

If you removed all man made co2, would the climate stabalize?

Not completely, no.

Don't hold your breath...

[ManDownUnder]

I have the definitive answer

Global warming's not real - it's a cyclical thing... but it makes sense to stop burning fossil fuels anyway, make like they're not an infinite resource and start planning alternatives.

*Yawn*

NEXT!

[Quasievil]

Why is the sky blue?

its not its cloudy and the clouds are causing GLOBAL WARMING

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/r...nce_Shows.html


Tax the clouds, and everyone run outside with your hair dryers or we are doomed, DOOMED DOOMED I SAY

[Badjelly]

So, let's see if I got this right. You're suggesting that when mankind started burning fossil fuels in big quantities in around 1850, all that CO2 vanished somehow or other and at the same time CO2 was released into the atmosphere in large amounts by a natural process that hadn't occurred previously in the last 800,000 years and the C13/C12 isotope ratio decreased in the way expected if the CO2 did come from fossil fuels, to values that also haven't been seen before.

Again? Ive already answered that.

Must have missed it.

If your theory (and I mean theory) was rock solid there would not be an argument.

Yes there would. That's one thing I can say for certain.

[ghost]

Yes there would. That's one thing I can say for certain.

No there wouldn't....[




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[Jantar]

If there is ever concensus, then it isn't science. If it is science there can never be concensus, untill every little variabale is identifiable, measurable, predictable, manageable and provable. At that stage it stops being science and becomes engineering.

[Pixie]

there are lots more cars to than when the Dinosaurs drove them around

Everybody knows the dinosaurs did not drive cars.However the cavemen of the time kicked up a lot of dust when they paddled their cars and this atmosheric dust reduced the solar energy reaching the earth.

Maybe we should go back to Flinstone cars like the Greenies want us to.

[Badjelly]

Everybody knows the dinosaurs did not drive cars...

So you reckon there's a consensus about this?

[Hitcher]

So you reckon there's a consensus about this?

Check with Edbear. I'm sure he has a theory about Chrysler coexisting with dinosaurs and why one evolved and the other didn't...