S/I cup rnd2 Teratonga

[dangerous]

Lets try and remember Oyster puts a huge amount of effort into the streetstock and I do not know all the facts re whay happened but i do respect the work he does and road racing would not be where it is today in the South Island without Oysters huge input. Oyster is always in my view looking out for the streetstock crew and is always trying to work in the best interests of the riders and the class and for that I say well done.

Kevin Goddard

Na Im over that line now Kevin, hell I spoke to the slower riders they said PJ does them no favours, they were stoked to start behind us out of harms way, you were the one that came to me and said the 1st race was lethal... you so nearly whiped a couple out.

I think you'd be best to get yoiur facts before saying I was bullshitting...

You were FULL a shit, same as you always are... you have to have it all your way don't you, how come the Steward John Beck and the chief marshel John someone? told me face to face they never said such a thing???

Lets use the previous race meet as an example... a race meet that the bucket club, me as pres., arranged and INVITED YOU...
attached is the schedule you WERE given at the last meeting prior to the race meet... it clearly states that the trainees get 3 FREE (paid for by my club) blasts at the track... you agreed it was GREAT... yet on the day you come to me changing the rules to suit ya self and tell ME.. ME who wrote the bloody schedule out and handed it to you personally, tried telling me the agreement was that training got a round with every other round... NO WAY DID WE AGREED TO THAT.

I think it was out right reckless that you came to me on the dummy grid and told me the steward had changed the rules... I made an effort as a president to let all the riders involved know of what was happening, you saw me drop the bike and storm off looking for answers... that really pissed me off and to be honest has me thinking why do I bother putting the extra effort in... this situation spoiled the day for me.

[oyster]

Firstly, I have faith in the readers of these posts that they give the right (low) level of credibility to ones who use personal insults to support them

Second, my posting states as fact what was said between myself and others at this meeting. Neither Rashika or Dangerous were standing there to agree or refute what was said therefore have no right to claim it's bullshit. I stand tall in the knowledge that I am 100% truthful. What "they said, others said" etc does not change that. I did NOTHING wrong. I acted in the best interests of rider safety, and I did through the right channels. I also faithfully obeyed the Stewards final decisions, although I disagreed with them. No, come to think of it, I didn't in that I chose to hold one young rider and myself BEHIND the Bucket grid.

I'm glad Kev has spoken to support the FACT that some of the starts were dangerous, and the correct solution was to have split flag drops.
I was told later by the 125GP riders that they too had pre arranged and had agreeance of a split start, which didn't happen.

Get over the insults Dangerous, and get on with safe development of the sport.

[Rashika]

Firstly, I have faith in the readers of these posts that they give the right (low) level of credibility to ones who use personal insults to support them

Second, my posting states as fact what was said between myself and others at this meeting. Neither Rashika or Dangerous were standing there to agree or refute what was said therefore have no right to claim it's bullshit. I stand tall in the knowledge that I am 100% truthful. What "they said, others said" etc does not change that. I did NOTHING wrong. I acted in the best interests of rider safety, and I did through the right channels. I also faithfully obeyed the Stewards final decisions, although I disagreed with them. No, come to think of it, I didn't in that I chose to hold one young rider and myself BEHIND the Bucket grid.

I'm glad Kev has spoken to support the FACT that some of the starts were dangerous, and the correct solution was to have split flag drops.
I was told later by the 125GP riders that they too had pre arranged and had agreeance of a split start, which didn't happen.

Get over the insults Dangerous, and get on with safe development of the sport.

We all have agreed that the FIRST race start was not safe, but that was simply as the back/vested streetstock racers did not take off as expected in any normal race, and had the back riders almost run them down.
Certainly NOT the fault of the back riders! And also what was stipulated at the briefing.

And in this conversation you had with the stewards that no-one else was privy to, what was the agreement? No-one else was informed of anything different to the initial agreement at riders briefing, until AFTER the first race.
At THAT point we all... and I mean the bucketeers and streetstock racers and steward, not just you... you simply do not have a monopoly on wanting safe racing, we all want that, although your comments above seem to IMPLY that you are the only one. We ALL wanted the slower riders off the back, the riders agreed as did the steward, so that was what we did. Simple... and do NOT make it out like you wanted that! You DID NOT want to pick and choose who went back, and yes I heard that from your own mouth SEVERAL times to the steward.
I certainly was there for quite a few conversations.

Anyway, its over with now. Maybe in future a 2nd flagdrop would be better, but to reiterate: that was NOT the case this event. End of story.

And thats all from me folks, whatever else gets said I wont be responding, cos I dont want to get into a pissing contest over something that is done and dusted!

[dangerous]

Second, my posting states as fact what was said between myself and others at this meeting. Neither Rashika or Dangerous were standing there to agree or refute what was said therefore have no right to claim it's bullshit.

True, but 5 mins later whan I talked with the steward and cheif marshel... they told me something different to what you aperantly heard, time for a beer PJ we will not get anywere here you are a great hypnotist ma man.

tha tha tha thats all folks

[Skunk]

Firstly, I have faith in the readers of these posts that they give the right (low) level of credibility to ones who use personal insults to support them

Shut up will ya. Your actions at the Bucket meet early June pissed me right off. You went out of your way to fuck up the race schedule. Hi-jacking meetings is not the actions of anyone I'll ever lend support to. Showed me what sort of person you really are. Comments from others from Canterbury told me you weren't that respected because of your actions either.

Get on with helping the sport instead of pissing off the helpers.

[johnsv650]

where are the good race reports and how much people enjoyed the meeting, im sure 95 % enjoyed the meeting, concentrate on the positives of the sport, all the young riders coming through the grades now, how much stronger is motorcycling in the south island now, it will good for the clubs for many years and good for the growth of the sport. don't get stuck on some small thoughts consider the positives and enjoy our spare time.

[oyster]

Skunk, whoever he is, prefers insults to facts. (In my opinion)
Fact. I did not "hijack the programme". As a HELPER I had a group of riders for training who were asking me when they were next due on. I couldn't answer that cos "training" was not on the whiteboard programme at the dummy grid. I struggled to find anyone to tell me where they fitted in the programme. Apparently at the lunch break, but this wasn't shown either.
But the Clerk of the course, (Batch's dad) was super helpful and sorted it.
I thanked him for that, and again after the meeting. A week later I thanked him again for a meeting well run.
All facts, take it or leave it. I have no insults or criticism for you Skunk, I don't do that stuff.

[Skunk]

You shouldn't have 'struggled to find anyone to tell me where they fitted in the programme' - you had the schedule handed to you at the meeting you attended before the event from what I hear from several sources who were there. And who was the guy calling out the next grid on the loud hailer? A decoration that didn't apply to you? Did you not attend the riders briefing? I'm sure I heard when the training sessions were. If you didn't hear it why didn't you ask?

I haven't insulted you - just rudely asked you to pull your head in.
If you expect support don't piss off the supporters. It gets to be too much hassle for them dealing with you and the event.

I'm fully behind anyone who tries to help at the grass roots level, but when those people decide they're more important and their opinion is the only one, well, support ends. Sometimes you have to give to receive.

For your info Skunk is a Wellington Bucket racer who travelled all the way to the meeting to watch you rearrange it. ie Battle of the Buckets race was called as being next and before we can get to the dummy grid you have a training session ready to go onto the track... Did you ask everyone until you found someone who said yes instead of no?

Glad you don't have criticism Pete, you don't know me and obliviously I didn't do anything to annoy anyone. Try it.

I'm done with this.

[johnsv650]

skunk,
did you enjoy the meeting ?
did your bike go well ?
did you enjoy the track and your competitors ?
how many were in your race or races ?

[Skunk]

skunk,
did you enjoy the meeting ?
did your bike go well ?
did you enjoy the track and your competitors ?
how many were in your race or races ?

I wasn't at the Teretonga meeting. Sorry I just had to comment on oyster after his "I do no wrong" attack on dangerous. As to the meeting I was at (Battle of the Buckets) that didn't go well and the report is here

[Rashika]

where are the good race reports and how much people enjoyed the meeting, im sure 95 % enjoyed the meeting, concentrate on the positives of the sport, all the young riders coming through the grades now, how much stronger is motorcycling in the south island now, it will good for the clubs for many years and good for the growth of the sport. don't get stuck on some small thoughts consider the positives and enjoy our spare time.

seeing as you asked so nicely i will reply, heres mine...

This was my weekend. Saturday cruise on down south, my old home turf too by the way, I was dragged up in invercargill and even Otatara (near teretonga) till i was 13 years old. Nice trip down, quick visit to Scumdog on the way... too many coppers round there tho so we had to leave.
Sat night at the Homestead Motels, and quick bit at the Lone Star... yes Invergiggle has gone big time, they have their own LONE STAR now!
And in bed by about 8.30.... shite!

up early (of course) got out to the track and waited for keyholder, watched the sunrise... it was quite nice, except for all the cloud and the threat of drizzle, but luckily it really DID improve during the day. Cool wind but sun was out most of the day and perfect for racing.
Practice for both classes: Nothing kinda happened till about 11am, so when they finally called up the road riders to finish drying the track we had to wake up at last. First time at Teretonga for me, so I REALLY just puddled round, trying to work out lines and stuff like that. Easy on the bucket, flat out in 5th gear all the way 'cept for the corner onto the straight (3rd there) and even got into 6th 2/3s down the straight. Elsie was a bit harder cos she gets me nervous most races, and with the smaller classes I simply had no-one to chase except Dangerous! So i puttered round on her.

First race was in Pre82: all 9 of us, woohooo I get POINTS! Finished last of course, but it was nice to be able to open her out for most of the race, esp down the straight, I dont usually get to top at B-track, but easy here.
Well we all know about the fiasco that was the first s/s & buckets race. Yes, it was scary to be all set and go, only to have to single file thru the stopped bikes, but thats all been said. The others buggered off so it was left to Dangerous, TonyMac and me to muck around together. Last bucket this time, but I dont think that was bad at all, considering who was racing. I am certainly kept up with TonyMac & D, so i was happy.
Race 2, was like race 1 except the starts were much better, and i was slowly getting more confidence. Pre82: this time D decided to wait up for me near the end of the race, which was bloody nice, finally someone to play with! And i actually think I may have bet him, you really shouldn't change up over the start/finish line D!
Buckets: this time I actually managed a cool passing manouvre on TonyMac, only for the buggar to slipstream me and get back past down the straight in the last lap... @!%$#$$&%$
Race 3: Pre 82 - This one was combined with F3 & 125s, which IMHO was bloody good, at last I had someone to honestly chase, think it was a couple of older 400's? Was just barely starting to catch them near the end, so was kinda chuffed with that race. Actually a great idea to combine them when the Pre82 class is small, especially with mine cos technically it is an F3 bike. Shit of a start cos my throttle jammed open on the start (even tho just recently cleaned out!), but I was at the back so only the 125s affected by me trying the close the ferkin thing and then attempt to leave the line, sheesh!
The bucket race was awesome, gave Tonymac another fright as I tried to slipstream a faster RG to get past him on the straight on the last lap, but short by about 1/2 bike length this time.
Oh well, never mind. Was a great weekend and I really enjoyed the experience of a new track. Thats all of the current road race circuits in the south island for me, and one in the north, pretty happy with that.

[johnsv650]

now thats a good race report, you have some positive memories , keep them and forget the bad ones........is it levels next ?

[Maido]

lol at we have a lonestar now! We may even get a McDonalds shortly!
(loney has been there for at least 15 years!)

[GaZBur]

now thats a good race report, you have some positive memories , keep them and forget the bad ones........is it levels next ?

SI Race dates are here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71806
next events are -
July 6th Rnd 3 Winter RR series Teretonga
July 19th Round 1 King of Levels Levels

I for one am looking forward to Levels as the BIG LOOOOONNNGGG straight at Teretonga shows up my lack of power.
I sometimes put a brief race report in the KB Adventure bike section in the DR650 thread cause I aint quick and figure only DR riders would be interested.

[dangerous]

where are the good race reports and how much people enjoyed the meeting,

My reports somewere above, I also enjoyed the meeting, but as a club (BMRC) rep there is alays extra work ie: less relaxing, but thats ok I know its appreciated.

I haven't insulted you - just rudely asked you to pull your head in..

Hey... sounds like me Which Welly excuse were you at the BOB?

Dangerous,
did you enjoy the meeting ?
did your bike go well ?
did you enjoy the track and your competitors ?
how many were in your race or races ?

hell yeah, all aside
bothe went very well ta
tracks bloody fast, was left behind on the RD in posties but the bucket flat out full track was fun
7 in post classic and 7 in F4 buckets

SI Race dates are here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71806
next events are -
July 6th Rnd 3 Winter RR series Teretonga
July 19th Round 1 King of Levels Levels

and BEARs round 3 20th July