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    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    On one radio report recently they said that the road toll was attributed 33% to speed, 33% to alcohol and 33% not wearing seatbelts. Not sure what station and the source, but straight away thought to myself what a load of crap!
    I would think it very close to 100% due to inappropriate use of a motor vehicle - end of story.

    China's road toll is interesting - 600 per day. Considering the relative motor vehicles per capita, their toll is WAY, WAY worse than ours, despite hugely draconian law enforcement and (someone correct me if I am wrong) a 70Km/h highway speed limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom
    Jim! I'm ashamed of you. Those figures aren't normalised for frequency. Many, many more people go for walks each day than ride motorcycles.

    Or were you intentionally turning the fallacious statistical weapons of the unwashed masses against their usual wielders? You sly dog...

    Took you long enough! Believe the way I see some stats published I wonder if the person providing the analytical backdrop has ever studied applied mathematics in any shape or form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja
    Yeah...what he said! I've never seen anyone joggin along the North Western Motorway. Would have thought it was much than 1.12 times the risk of dying ny joggin than riding a motorcycle
    I would have thought living in Pomgolia would have allowed to appreciate a heavily sarcastic dig at how road accident stats are presented. Has Blair hanging around with Bush started to removed the British appreciation of Irony and Sarcasm without smilies?
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    Does anyone know what criteria are used when collecting traffic accident statistics? For instance, does "speed" mean the vehicle that caused the accident was definitely exceeding the speed limit or does it mean that at least one of the vehicles involved in the accident was going faster than the investigator considers appropriate for the conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Took you long enough!
    Only just got around to reading the thread this morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Believe the way I see some stats published I wonder if the person providing the analytical backdrop has ever studied applied mathematics in any shape or form.
    True dat. And very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork
    Does anyone know what criteria are used when collecting traffic accident statistics? For instance, does "speed" mean the vehicle that caused the accident was definitely exceeding the speed limit or does it mean that at least one of the vehicles involved in the accident was going faster than the investigator considers appropriate for the conditions.
    It's interesting that one. In my recent accident I committed the heinous offence of both excessive speed for the conditions (standing still is too fast for a diesel affected surface) and a solo vehicle accident. Bad for both sets of stats. But almost unavoidable in the circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork
    Does anyone know what criteria are used when collecting traffic accident statistics? For instance, does "speed" mean the vehicle that caused the accident was definitely exceeding the speed limit or does it mean that at least one of the vehicles involved in the accident was going faster than the investigator considers appropriate for the conditions.
    The LTSA defines speeding as "travelling too fast for the conditions".

    http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/research/speed.html

    This is probably an appropriate definition as it could be considered a measure of inappropriate driver behaviour resulting in an accident, but is too often confused with exceeding the speed limit in advertising campaigns etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    It's interesting that one. In my recent accident I committed the heinous offence of both excessive speed for the conditions (standing still is too fast for a diesel affected surface) and a solo vehicle accident. Bad for both sets of stats. But almost unavoidable in the circumstances.
    Frosty did the same thing... but his will not be an official stat... is yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    Frosty did the same thing... but his will not be an official stat... is yours?
    Yes. I claimed insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    Frosty did the same thing... but his will not be an official stat... is yours?

    Not strictly true ... it will be recorded by ACC.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticno6
    Not strictly true ... it will be recorded by ACC.
    hmmm... depends what he told them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    hmmm... depends what he told them....

    Or, if he even bothered to go get his shoulder check out...

    Frosty - you there?
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    anyone been to www.nationstates.net? you make your own country, and play the government, changing laws and legislation etc. It's awesome, just today abolished the speed limit. Wish I controlled New Zealand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremysprite
    anyone been to www.nationstates.net? you make your own country, and play the government, changing laws and legislation etc. It's awesome, just today abolished the speed limit. Wish I controlled New Zealand....
    MAN - that's cool - I'm gonna be doing that rather than working from now on!!! I loved that book too... Hummm - time to create the nation of something or other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka

    Who was policing the roads in the 80's? Oh, thats right it was the Ministry of Transport. The organisation who, according to some were soooo much better at road policing than todays police but under whose management the road toll was 200 - 300 more anually than it is now.

    Hang on a second - have I missed something here? Being as I've only been in NZ for a few months, are you trying to tell me that the Ministry of Transport were responsible for catching speeding, drunk motorists etc? Did they chase down drivers like the HP today i.e. lights sirens & strange moustaches ?
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