Singh family complaining about the police

[98tls]

I'm all for the gallows, chair, etc, but in the USA it's apparently cheaper to keep someone incarcerated for life(and that means life) than to execute someone.

The average 10 year appeal process must jack the cost up something chronic.

Always thought the French had the right idea,no ifs or buts just off with your head.

[RT527]

Always thought the French had the right idea,no ifs or buts just off with your head.

Actually the Chinese are even more efficient at it....Cause they Charge the cost of the bullet back to the offenders family and if your found guilty its straight out the back and executed.

[Robbo]

Actually the Chinese are even more efficient at it....Cause they Charge the cost of the bullet back to the offenders family and if your found guilty its straight out the back and executed.

We could sure learn a lot from the Chinese then.

[KiwiRat]

Actually the Chinese are even more efficient at it....Cause they Charge the cost of the bullet back to the offenders family and if your found guilty its straight out the back and executed.

That would work for me.

[98tls]

Actually the Chinese are even more efficient at it....Cause they Charge the cost of the bullet back to the offenders family and if your found guilty its straight out the back and executed.

Some of them here cant even pay a power bill to keep themselves alive so what chance of paying for a bullet.

[spudchucka]

I'm sure Police acting national operations manager Superintendent John Rivers would be interested to hear your opinion of his mental state



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Though perhaps you will tell us that the Harold is making it all up again

Mind you, you may well be right about the senior plodocracy having lost touch with reality. I can agree with you on that

This notion...

For clarification: the "incident" being the delay in getting medical attention for Mr Singh

Not his.

[KiwiRat]

Some of them here cant even pay a power bill to keep themselves alive so what chance of paying for a bullet.

Ouch.

[Robbo]

Some of them here cant even pay a power bill to keep themselves alive so what chance of paying for a bullet.

I will gladly pay for the bullet. Anyone else care to donate to this Very Worthy Cause??
We can't allow the lack of a few dollars to stand in the way of Justice can we.

[Maki]

There's a whole world of difference to what you said here:

"Maybe, in a big city such as Auckland their should actually be cops sitting there that are READY to respond to an armed offender, especially on a Saturday night."

And what is being 'wanted' in your later post above.

To have 'AOS on wheels' would leave staffing holes in other branches, reducing police available and needed for more routine stuff, SPB will be happy with that I'd say???.

In effect what is 'wanted' is routine arming of patrols already out there, already rostered on duty. That I can see is possible,

However watch for the sandal-wearing bleeding heart human right Pollyannas screeching their heads off, especially about the Taser Xrep and the 'bean-bag' loads for the shot-guns.

And don't hold your breath for this 'armed patrol' to roll-out next week.

I suspect that you misunderstood on purpose, but just in case you didn't and your not as smart as I gave you credit for, then by "sitting there" I meant there and ready to react. I did not mean literally sitting on their asses in some station watching TV or something, but of course you knew that already...

[MisterD]

what about number 3... And the gunman was waiting in the carpark for the cops, so he could plug a few...

This would be the carpark that several people were making their 111 calls from on thier mobile phones?

[scumdog]

This would be the carpark that several people were making their 111 calls from on thier mobile phones?

And the cops were there, watching all these people phoning them, knowing there was no gunman/gunmen nearby??

Gee, the longer this story goes on the more I learn about the case....

[RT527]

This would be the carpark that several people were making their 111 calls from on thier mobile phones?

Ok you dont quite get it do you....lets use another way of looking at it....at an arson 95 % of the time that arsonist will actually be standing very nearby the incident....they like to watch their handy work!!!.

So theres a group of people making a phone call from the car park....at that point in time no one except the shot man had really got a good look at the offenders, so who's to say that the ones in the car park making phone calls weren't the offenders bragging to their mates about what they had just done???

[scumdog]

I suspect that you misunderstood on purpose, but just in case you didn't and your not as smart as I gave you credit for, then by "sitting there" I meant there and ready to react. I did not mean literally sitting on their asses in some station watching TV or something, but of course you knew that already...

Sittin...sitting...sitting - you said sitting.

NOT "A mobile armed rapid response team"


Sorry I did not read 'sitting' as what you really meant, I guess I'm just another dumb-arse that doesn't know what the public really mean.

[Patrick]

Aren't the first sixty minutes critical? Least that's what the doctors/ambulance guys keep telling us.

This is true... but he was fighting for life in hospital for over 24 hours with the best available medical help, some damage just can't be fixed, even if help was immediate....

Sorry to have to tell you this, but according to the police themselves, then I am right and you are wrong, Mwuhahahahaha!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10516286

"Police want armed patrols on Auckland's streets 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

"Armed response vehicles" would be manned by firearms specialists and provide a quick response to call-outs like last week's shooting of Manurewa liquor store owner Navtej Singh."

Like the Pommy ones... but if we aren't allowed Tasers, then this aint going to happen, is it...??????

Hard to argue, other than the obvious.... a steady stream? A couple of prosecutions doesn't amount to a steady stream amonst a staff of 11,000 give or take...

What fucken response time??..........louts terrorised the neighbour hood a couple of weeks ago wrecking letterboxes, tagging, stealing shit etc.......still waiting for the police to turn upFONT][/I]

They're still there? I would ring again then...

Though perhaps you will tell us that the Harold is making it all up again

Mind you, you may well be right about the senior plodocracy having lost touch with reality. I can agree with you on that

Hell no, the Harold is nothing but truth and accuracy.... we all know that!

As for point two... oh, look, is that the time?

3. The family of the victim were told that the ambulance was only a minute away, when in fact it was still waiting to be cleared into the scene.

As far as I can see, if the family had been told the truth, and told where the ambulance was waiting, they could have taken the victim to the ambulance and saved around 20 minutes. Therefore, blame, if blame is warranted, is to the comms centre for not being truthfull.

They didn't lie - it was a minute away. Probably less, more like 30 seconds waiting for the go ahead call - so, yeah, liars!!! Seriously though....

Yeah, perhaps they should have been told that, if that was what was told, or wan't, as the case recorded on the tapes might be....

Its only the scum who would be shot who should fear the police having guns, but we know what this country is like do gooders will complain and it wont happen . guns are ok ,tazers no thanks

Sad but true - but Ixion has many believing that we want to go out and shoot old ladies wearing shawls.

Maybe this election we could vote on the death penalty thing

Now there is an idea - wonder if it would work...

Hang on, I remember a referendum on harsher penalies where 95% of the vote said, "harsher penalties..." And in return, we get home detention... and murderers on bail.

This would be the carpark that several people were making their 111 calls from on thier mobile phones?

They weren't the problem... it was the potential shooter waiting in the nearby darkness, using the lights of the shops to illuminate their potential cop target...

[Patrick]

But I am more interested in the statements that command of such situations is being left to constables. If true , that is a most unacceptable situation.

So who you gonna call then.... Ghostbusters???????

We are all Constables - even the Commissioner is a Constable....