Last guy in MotoGP V fastest kiwi

**codgyoleracer** · 5th June 2008, 08:05

Heres one for ya;
You put the current moto GP boys all on the same bike for a weekend & find out who is the fastest & who is the slowest in the exact same conditions & equipment. (keep in mind that this entirely hypothetical)

Now take the slowest guy from that - & heres your question / poll

Will the slowest Moto GP guy be quicker the fastest guy in New Zealand around any of the popular tracks (again on equal machinery / conditions) ?

:-)

**jrandom** · 5th June 2008, 08:22

I reckon that first step would actually be the most fascinating one - seeing which GP rider could get the most out a particular machine.

And I reckon, on the day, a top local road racer would have a fighting chance - I don't think the likes of the GP riders have orders of magnitude more inherent speed in them; they get to where they are by consistent hard work, not falling off too often, and working with their factory teams to develop bikes.

It's also telling that Schumacher tested a GP bike and lapped within a few seconds of the GP pack times as soon as he went out on it, but when racing a CBR1000RR superbike at club level in Germany recently he was only midfield.

So, yeah... not a lot in it IMHO.

**DEATH_INC.** · 5th June 2008, 08:44

Nope, I reckon the likes of yourself and a few others here with a bit of mileage on a gp machine will be more than competitive with the back half of the field.

**codgyoleracer** · 5th June 2008, 08:47

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Nope, I reckon the likes of yourself and a few others here with a bit of mileage on a gp machine will be more than competitive with the back half of the field.

I,ve got news for you (& me) and its all bad................ :-)

**DEATH_INC.** · 5th June 2008, 08:59

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

I,ve got news for you (& me) and its all bad................ :-)

Don't underestimate yourself, it's not that hard

once you get your head around the acceleration and braking ability's of the things it's all down to exploring the mid corner traction, so as long as you can feel things happening it is possible.....
Now don't all get jumpy about me saying it's easy....I'm not saying that....but put Rossi on your 6 fiddy around taupo and see the laptimes.....now that'd be something....

**DEATH_INC.** · 5th June 2008, 09:02

Oh yeh, and don't forget Stroudy mixed it up with the WSBK guys on a year old bike in aussie a year or two back, a lot of those guys can run ok in motogp....

**WRT** · 5th June 2008, 10:38

What bike are we talking about here? If it's MotoGP spec, then it'd be weighted in the MotoGP riders favour. If your talking a supersport bike, then it's probably going to be more in the Kiwi's favour.

I reckon make it both fair and interesting and chuck 'em all on buckets. Round a go-kart track.

**cowpoos** · 5th June 2008, 10:43

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Oh yeh, and don't forget Stroudy mixed it up with the WSBK guys on a year old bike in aussie a year or two back, a lot of those guys can run ok in motogp....

not to mention he was riding for ROC yamaha in GP's for a while...amoung his many many international rides

**quallman1234** · 5th June 2008, 11:49

Definetely buckets!

**svr** · 5th June 2008, 12:22

Moto GP is a bit diferent now - all hardened proffessionals with no-one getting lapped.
The slowest (?!) motogp rider is Andrew West, who was the fasest WSS 600 rider last year when given the chance - faster than Kevin Curtain -agreed?
The best NZ rider over the last 15 years was Tony Rees.
Ask Tony how fast Curtain is.
Case closed?

**k14** · 5th June 2008, 14:17

Originally Posted by svr

Moto GP is a bit diferent now - all hardened proffessionals with no-one getting lapped.
The slowest (?!) motogp rider is Andrew West, who was the fasest WSS 600 rider last year when given the chance - faster than Kevin Curtain -agreed?
The best NZ rider over the last 15 years was Tony Rees.
Ask Tony how fast Curtain is.
Case closed?

Yeah agree (with half of it). Anthony West is consistently coming last, down with Melandri... Last year in 600 supersport West opened up a can of whoopass. Yeah he was on one of the best machines but he totally annihilated everyone, including Sofoglu who up till West came along was dominating. Then West went to GPs and had a few ok results. This year he is no where, although I think that green nail has something to do with it. I don't know if he is the worst in GP's but I'd say he is below average. If he jumped on any bike in NZ he would kick all and sundry's arses comprehensively.

P.S. Stroud is best NZ rider from last 15 years

**svr** · 5th June 2008, 14:19

That said the Strouds, Shiriffs, Rees etc of NZ RRing have my admiration and deserve our support - they've taken risks and made huge sacrifices to be as good as they are and I watch them race whenever I can.