Student vs Teacher

[nudemetalz]

When you were young, did you ever have an argument with your teacher where you were right and they were wrong?

I was and still am aviation mad. When I was 10, Standard 4 in old school terms, my teacher told the class that NAC (remember them, the old NZ airline?) stood for National Airways CO-OPERATION.
I said "Not right, it stands for National Airways CORPORATION". I knew this because I had every book known to man to do with aviation.
Anyway, the teacher wouldn't buy it and told me to shut up.
I told another teacher about it who knew that I was correct and he got the aforementioned teacher to apologise to me.
Ha, mud on your face a-hole !!!!!!

Anyone else got a story like that?

[Disco Dan]

Do you think that every teacher know everything there is too know??

[nudemetalz]

Hey I was 10. It was cool.
Of course I wouldn't do that now.

[007XX]

Do you think that every teacher know everything there is too know??

Most certainly not, but they most definitely should have the intelligence to acknowledge that possibility and encourage a healthy debate with research of facts with the student to back their knowledge / opinion.

Having the attitude that their word is supreme and cannot be questioned can only foster a resentment counter productive to healthy respect and learning from the student's point of view.



To answer your original question Nude, I had a similar situation some years ago, which unfortunately led to me being kicked into the Principal's office for explanation. I refused to back down from an argument on a point of my birth country's history. The teacher was fresh from France and knew fuck all, but still thought he knew better than someone who was a local.
Anyway, long story short, he ahd to apologise to me, my parents (for issuing me a warning notice) and two months later moved back to France! Fuckwit!

[rachprice]

My flatmate argued with her nursing lecturer because she said something wrong about fetal alcohol syndrome.
My flatmate having done an anatomy degree had studyied neurobiology and FAS, KNEW she was wrong. The lecturer wouldn't believe her or even listen to what she had to say and it escalated then she said 'fuck this is bullshit.' The lecturer took offence to the swearing and reported her. She had to go to the dean and they cleared up that Jo (flatmate) was indeed right but still had to do a letter of apology.
There is no way in hell I would have apologised, but she did, not that she admitted that she was wrong, just that she shouldn't have sworn which I guess was the best way.

[RiderInBlack]

She had to go to the dean and they cleared up that Jo (flatmate) was indeed right but still had to do a letter of apology.
There is no way in hell I would have apologised, but she did, not that she admitted that she was wrong, just that she shouldn't have sworn which I guess was the best way.

An unfortunate part of doing a Deg is having ta chow down sometimes just so ya can pass. Did Bach Of Human Science (Nursing) up here. The worse bit was the so called "Open Discussion" on the Treaty Of Waitangi and Maori Health. Ya soon worked out that the best thing ta do was mouth the bullshit they wanted from ya, rather than state ya real views. One Girl decided to reserve her right not to comment and got hassled badly by the Tutors and some of the other Students for that. Made me so discussed in that part of the course. She didn't get failed, but made ya think what would have happened if one of us had truly said as we felt.

[Headbanger]

I always found it a bit crap that you could pick up a newspaper and read of events that directly conflicted with the information coming from the text books.

Use the up to date data and you get marked as wrong.....

[R6_kid:Me]

Mine was aviation related too... My social studies said that the RNZAF had never had aircraft capable of supersonic speeds... I told her she was wrong, luckily for her i'd been in her class the year before and she knew I was aviation mad, and that the old man was an aircraft tech in the Air Force. I told her that the skyhawk is capable of going supersonic in a dive... and that there is a story of an RNZAF 727 aircrew being naughty and actually managing to do the same on one particular occasion.

[R6_kid:Me]

An unfortunate part of doing a Deg is having ta chow down sometimes just so ya can pass.

It's like that all through English at school. You have to report how a particular text coveyed to you and what you though of it... of course it's far far easy to say that it gave you warm fuzzies than that you thought it was shite and that you hate reading (not that i did)...

Just like when I answered a question about 'describe a particular part of the film you studied that showed blah blah blah' just so happened that the part I used had naughty words in it (which i chose not to omit) and what was an otherwise decent couple of paragraphs earned a big fat fail.

[Toaster]

I'd like to know why my interpretation of some gay poem was "wrong" if it was my bloody interpretation.... not that I am still bitter.

[avgas]

When i was like 15 i did a short story for english class. It was probably one of the best pieces of writing i have done in my life. But very disturbing writing. Short story even shorter it was about me stalking prey and then finally killing it and it screaming to death..........as it happened in real life with a rabbit (yes i used rabbit at the end of my story).
Teacher said it was too disturbing, and that no books written to that level ever get awards.........i get a 1/10 for my story.
I complain, teacher states (in front of the principal) that its not the content (which he states is fantastic) its the fact that the story is disturbing. And not "story" material.
Headmaster reads it - thinks its fantastic, tells teach to go read "Silence of the Lambs" or something by "Dean Koontz"........i do the same out of interest.
I get 9/10 (i had some spelling mistakes)

[BuFfY]

I am a teacher and I am always right.

haha


When I was ten, one of the girls in my class told my teacher that when she asked me to borrow my ruler I told her to get on her knees and beg. I got in heaps of trouble with my teacher and had to sit outside etc even though I told him I didn't do it. I kept telling him I would never do anything like that and eventually she caved and told the truth. He ended up apologising to me. It felt awesome for him to admit to me he was wrong infront of all my classmates.

[PrincessBandit]

I have no problem apologising to students if the necessity ever arises (mine are secondary school level). Years of learning, on my part, have meant that dealing with teenagers in a pedantic way is a sure fire recipe for having to eat humble pie somewhere down the track. In my experience most students will have more respect for you if you can admit that you might not have been right (note, I cleverly avoided the word 'wrong' lol) and that they were correct.
Has also been good with dealing with my own children....

[BuFfY]

I have no problem apologising to students if the necessity ever arises (mine are secondary school level). Years of learning, on my part, have meant that dealing with teenagers in a pedantic way is a sure fire recipe for having to eat humble pie somewhere down the track. In my experience most students will have more respect for you if you can admit that you might not have been right (note, I cleverly avoided the word 'wrong' lol) and that they were correct.
Has also been good with dealing with my own children....

Yeah I agree. It also helps them to realise that there is nothing wrong with being wrong some times, and we are human and can still learn new stuff!

[martybabe]

Not quite the same but a dose of teacher arrogance. My youngest daughter told me she was being bullied by an individual at school, this was confirmed by my eldest daughter who had witnessed physical attacks by the bully from the adjoining play ground.

Off to school to sort out the situation. Told the Teach my daughter was being bullied by Mary, teach says, no she isn't , no bullying at my school! wtf. Er yes she is, She says so and my other girl has witnessed it. Here's the best bit, teach says, You should know better than to believe little girls and there lies.

No trial, no investigation, my girls were liars and I was a gullible fool of a parent. Anyways, biting my tongue I insisted she dealt with it and Mary was sent for.

Teach bends down to Mary to begin the one question inquisition to prove how right she was. "Mary, I know this is silly but do you bully Annie at all?"

Of course everyone expects, no miss but the little fat monkey says " yes miss every day, I like to strangle her"

What occurred next is to blue to print but miss oh so arrogant judge Judy witch bitch, was left in no doubt that I would hold her personally responsible for any recurrence of said bullying or indeed any recurrence of her arrogant, pissy self righteous attitude to me or my family.