Endurance race Dec 29th

**SKIDA//00** · 14th June 2008, 10:32

im keen as wat ever the format...

**White trash** · 14th June 2008, 10:44

Originally Posted by Mrs Kendog

That sounds like an awesome idea Racey Rider, and seeing as WhiteTrash has pointed out that I would be simply too farkin slow to even be allowed to start the race and have fun, I will put my hand up to be on the KB pitcrew if it was a happening thing!
Sounds like the idea also sidecar bob, I thought this would be an oppourtunity for those who don't/can't ride as fast as 'racers' to be able to participate in some kind of race where speed is not the major factor.
Anyway, out to the pits and on my bucket I guess I will stay.

Makes me sound a bit of a cunt I know, but there is a class where the emphasis is on fun. It's called Clubmans.

I like the sound of an "A" and "B" class more though. It means anybody's going to have a crack at it.

**Trudes** · 14th June 2008, 10:46

Originally Posted by White trash

Makes me sound a bit of a cunt I know, but there is a class where the emphasis is on fun. It's called Clubmans.

I like the sound of an "A" and "B" class more though. It means anybody's going to have a crack at it.

Does eh!

**scrivy** · 14th June 2008, 13:00

Originally Posted by White trash

I'd be very keen. Your idea of an endurance race is a little different to AMCC though so what are you proposing? 3 hours? 4 hours?
Transponders would be a must, can't expect some poor bugger to sit and count laps for that long.
Any chance of making it a national title? That'd attract some of those oldies you keep harping on about

I'm not going to propose anything at this stage. I want feedback from YOU guys and gals that are going to be racing in it!!
Democracy at its best!!
We have a timing man that can do the job well.
Trashie - I've told you before - us oldies don't do it for trophies!! We do it to kick your young butts!!!!

Originally Posted by Billy

Excellent idea,Probably need to do some maths and calculate the entry fee thingy to give people more of an idea of cost.Mike Perrin and myself organised a similar event at Manfeild back in 94 and it was awesome til someone came along and turned it into a money gobbling monster and destroyed it.I would definitely be there no matter what the cost but some others might not.Good luck

Billy, as you might know, I charge the lowest fees for a two day meeting now, with trophies, beer, BBQ, spot prizes etc. (I envisage somewhere between $150-$200 per team - I hope

). I calculate in the gate taking subsidizing the racers entry fees. I have made loses in our meeting before, but I don't do it to make money. I do it so my fellow race enthusiasts can have an enjoyable time with fellow racers at an affordable cost.

Originally Posted by scracha

All good. I take it the F3/125/motard entry fees would be lower though?
Bait for it.......and do we have to have them fuggin motard thingies in our class

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Track 2 gets my vote but no doubt the bigger track will suit the faster bikes and it'll perhaps mean more bikes can circulate at any given time?

I see it being different race lengths, different prices.
I seriously don't think the majority will want Motards.
Maybe track 1 for the big boys (bike size that is....), and track 2 for the smaller classes?

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Ill be able to help by working in at sign in & scrutineering etc.
Bring a mate to help out if you can, these events are run by a very few overworked volunteers & any extra hands are always welcomed.

You're right on the money Bob!! Also, it would look great to have more people there too.

Originally Posted by steveyb

Moto Academy NZ would likely be starters.
It would be great training for the boys to think about how to approach a longer race and work out tactics and stuff.
A 10-12 lap Streetstock race first thing in the morning to get everything underway, then a 30 minute race for Post Classics, then a 45 minute race (ie proper GP length!!) for 125GP and one for F3 (allow 250GP bikes into the F3 race, would make for a really great race). Need to calc the time.
Then a 3 or 4 hr Superbike/Supersport race, two or three rider teams, no single riders as it makes it more interesting that way and teaches people more about teamwork.
Have a full grid set up, presentation, all that sort of thing prior to the start of the main race. Maybe a Le Mans start, but that is not really necessary, but is a bit different and traditional for Endurance races. Main feature MUST be longer than 2 hrs. Rider changes mandatory so that each rider must ride twice unless one gets injured during the race.
At least one rear tyre change mandatory for safety reasons.
Refuelling must be done in a designated area, so teams need to organise this properly, as we don't really have the right set ups for safe refuelling along pitlane. Rider changes can be used as refuelling stops. Maybe best at far end of pitlane so riders and teams can access that area by walking down behind the garages not along pitlane.
Allow the use of safety car to keep race going while picking up downed riders.
Maybe practice the use of this at a slow pace on one of the previous days.

Let me know if you want another body onboard with the business.

Cheers

Steve B

All good ideas Steve. Le Mans sounds interesting.

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I think an A & B class would be the idea, & believe me, If Scrivy gets the numbers it WILL happen.
Maybe a road bike, no tyre swap class, & a full on class for the heroes, Run in completely seperate races of course.

Well, with the interest already shown, I'm going ahead with it at this stage. MNZ should have no reason to turn down the permit request.
I hope you interested riders continue to give me ideas on the format. I will collate your ideas, and re post ideas for the masses to comment on. Please PM me your thoughts.
Book the days of Dec 27th - Dec 29th. It will be a great festival of speed!!!

Scrivy

**cowpoos** · 14th June 2008, 17:25

Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer

I'm there with bells on!

big cow bells or lil jingle jingle bells??? hmmm?

**BIHB@0610** · 14th June 2008, 17:31

Originally Posted by scrivy

Book the days of Dec 27th - Dec 29th. It will be a great festival of speed!!!

Scrivy

Yay!

I have no kids those dates, so will be well keen to help out in any way - on the gate, on the barbie, wherever. Am a whizz at typing, emailing, printing, stapling, databases, you name it I'll give it a go - let me know if you need a hand, Scrivy

**cowpoos** · 14th June 2008, 17:31

Originally Posted by SKIDA//00

im keen as wat ever the format...

u best start working on your fitness then tubby

**dhunt** · 14th June 2008, 17:57

Originally Posted by scrivy

Book the days of Dec 27th - Dec 29th. It will be a great festival of speed!!!

Scrivy

Sounds awesome scrivy

What a great way to finish the year on a racing high

and also a goal to work towards (fitness etc).

**Ivan** · 14th June 2008, 18:12

Originally Posted by quallman1234

Your need a new pistion and crank (if you anal) if your racing 125's!

Its nto about being anil. WHen the cranks over due they let go no warning I doubt you would seriously get 1 hour 50 minutes on a 125 maybe 40 mins for them like moto gp style races. A the bikes arnt designed for those sort of runs they are designed quick burst races and then complete engine strip down and us pleabs that have been honered to ride one usally do a few races before doing a top end minimum.

but 1 hour 50 youd stuff it.

40 minutes would be sweet on them tho.

And also I am keen

**Ivan** · 14th June 2008, 18:25

I would say no to allowing 250s into F3 I mean yip share the track ok but not the same class.

as a 250 GP bike is as fast as a 600 itl dominate the F3 field and that aint fair

**Drew** · 14th June 2008, 18:36

I'm in like flin if ya go ahead Scriv.

Dunno what kinda length is being floated most, 3 hours would mean that if F2 and F1 were together they'd both have to change a set of tyres, making it more fair than a two hour, since I think the Ducati could do the whole thing without it.

It would perhaps limit entries on cost though. What do others think???