custom chambers in ackl would make a chromed 4-2 for aprox $1500. not a replica, though.Originally Posted by pete376403
Hardcore Biker
custom chambers in ackl would make a chromed 4-2 for aprox $1500. not a replica, though.
Bruno
Forum whore
Have a look at http://cycleworks.co.nz/suzuki.php
they have replica 4 into 2's for between $1990 (chrome) and $2500 (stainless) or about $750 non replica in black
I just passed on a set with a couple of small holes and minor pitting for $100US + about $160US shipping.
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/renobruce/Pipe/
As you can see they aren't too bad but not sufficiently better than mine to warrant the cost. I Want to hold out for a better set and spend 2 - 3 x as much on the pipes as needed to get seriously good ones. Though I understand they can go for up to $600 US. Did you know you can still buy them NOS from many online dealers? I gave up figuring the cost as I started adding up the separate components and became depressed
btw.. re the ebay thing. I won a pair of rotors for U$13 but cost another U$55 in shipping... still cheap though.
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L-Plate Rider
Hi guys - barely made it home Sunday due to fouled plugs again once i got back into traffic. Removed the head after work on Monday to fix the x threaded plug and it is having threaded inserts put into all 4 holes and have ordered from Z1 carb parts, Pingel pet cock and will take it to a specialist tuner whe all back and running. Probably install K&N pods also i think as air boxes are all wrong fit on the 48mm spigots on my VM30 carbs.
Hope to make the BFTP anni ride. Will pods work with std pipes? If anyone has good 4-1 i'd be intersted in price as it'd be good to lose the weight and gain some noise.
TW
Hardcore Biker
just uping my post numbers really......but if anyone else has trouble with inserting rubber seals..(XS650 clutch rod seal)...the plan seems to be to freeze them overnight to harden the rubber...chamfer the edge of the case and then use a silicon gasket sealer around the area before pushing it in with your fingers....i bought two from the states...have one chance left to get it right.....
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Hope you get it sorted out. From what I have heard, you would need to re-jet the carbs for use with a 4-1 or 4-2 when changing to pods. Was I you I'd ask popsylar or one of the other regs at GSR... they know this stuff inside out.
Pics of my carb size and spacing as requested
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Hardcore Biker
pods should work fine with the standard pipe but you are likely to lose some bottom end torque and gain a little top end power.
with vm carbs you have a chance of not needing new pilot jets as those carbs allow for more adjustment than cv carbs.
if you go to 4-1 exhaust then definitely need to up the jets.
i run 4-1 with stock jets but i can tell that the engine could us a bit more petrol at high revs when i whack open the throttle.
for the exact jet sizes i hear recomendations to best use dynajet kit (rather than experiment with various sizes that can be costly and give headaches).
i have 4-1 headers on trademe at the moment, but they need a mufler and a cosmetic overhaul.
Bruno
Me Like Cafe
Quo- best to make all the changes you are going to make, then get it dialed in. Hi flow air cleaners make it run lean if the exhaust gasses are freer flowing as well. Otherwise you will not really make much noticable difference by just doing that. And do you know how muchK&N
I would estimate that for 4
Bummer to hear you had fouling again, I bet you were just relaxing after a trouble free ride too...
Good to hear you are going to get all 4 plug threads done, may as well while the head is off.
Blast From The Past Axis of Oil
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That's what I thought
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Scooter boy
Hi StatusQuo - I can give you some help on jetting your VM carbs. First try and find a stock airbox and mod it to suite your carbs. I believe that the GS850 CV airbox will have rubber boots around 48 mm on their BS32 carbs. I'm not sure how much work would be involved in mating up the box mounts to your 1000, but probably far less than the time to tune in the pods/4-1 combo.
If you go down the pods track, you'll be forever trying to get rid of stumbles either just off the pilots or during the needle operation. If you must go pods, do as Psyguy suggested, buy a DJ kit and give yourself a chance of getting the jetting close. Those kits have the right shaped needles needed to correct leanness caused by the freer flowing pods.
Let me know if I can help you with ball park jet sizes.
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sorry about the rugby chaps! best team on the day
Boys can't ride broken toys.
Scooter boy
Don't be sorry. It's taken 35 years, so let's rub it in!
Called around your way this avo. Thought you might have been at the game.
Any local rides on tomorrow?
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When I put the Cycleworks 4-into-1 on my 1100 I never touched the carb jetting. Air filter is a K&N in the standard airbox. Power delivery is as seamless as with the standard exhaust (which was pretty free-flowing due to all the rust holes) and standard foam filter.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
Scooter boy
Yeah, sometimes you don't need to change jetting after a 4-1 fit up when still using the stock airbox . The Cycle Works pipes seem to vary a bit in the sizing of the pipe and cones after the collector. That's the case with the slash pipes anyway. Is yours a slash or does it have a can attached?
Sometimes the bikes are running slightly rich in one part of the rev range in stock trim, and this changes when a 4-1 is used. But overall there doesn't seem to be any substantial difference.
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Well folks, we had another great ride today. I will leave the write up to Caseye but would like to thank the jmk's (Craig and Sharon) for their hospitality (and breakfast.. Yum). Had a great ride and pleasant lunch. Thanks guys. Here are some pics from the Hamilton meet point.
I can't seem to post pics in this thread??
jmk's bike
Murrays Bike
Voltaire on the noise box
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Coal Burning XV Rider!
Well, what do you say about a day out of the box like today.
Brilliant sunshine 1st thing, no rain all day.
Great company, excellent Coffee and B and E's at the JMNK's pad.
Roads from Heaven to ride on and all this while in convoy with some Ulysesses and the Waikato Laxed Out Riders group.
AWESOME only just begins to cover it.
The coveted STICKETS have been stucketed to every attending BFTP machine and those in line for more STICKETS due to their rides attended got their quota's filled.
They look GREAT our BFTP stickets do.
Cheers Sharon for that little spelling mistook that has catapulted our stickets into the realms of etheral beauty and divineness, others attending todays rides wanted these highly sought after stickets, but alas unless on period bikes it was Sorry! no can do!
Kaiaua pub once again had many bikes round back in the garden bar, I thought everyone who went there knew to ride round back and park beside your umbrellaed table in their very nice and spacious Garden bar.
Seems not, so now there are many who do.
The pubs grub came fast and well presented, though as in recent times the quantity was lacking!
Once this little point has been rectified I'll again suggest to the SATNR riders that we should go back there.
Many other groups of riders were at the Kaiaua pub and the fish an chup shop but room was at a premium so I shifted our lot behind the pub, we got served much faster and considerably cheaper than those waiting for 1/2 an hour or more at the fush shop and of course we were able to imbide a bevvy or two during our meals.
Meet many people, put faces to names and generally had a great time with the different groups.
MOM if your out there reading this we sat beside each other and I'm sorry I didn't realise it was you, we've exchanged many words here on KB and I am truley sorry for not taking the chance to say Hi in person, another time I hope.
Your words re the ride organisers mission statement re going home hit home with those of us attending from the BFTP group.
2 of our members were offered trained mentor advice re their riding skills or lack thereoff, he he he.
One was so traumatised that he needed coffee when we stopped in Dorkland.The other was not asked if there had been any mitigating circumstances. Had that been done there was in fact an answer which may have lead to another rider being more severely mentored.
Apart from a couple of minor niggles we all reported a great days riding and an enthusiasm to repeat this expereince again, asap.
For those who didn't attend, "DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR stickets FOR THIS RIDEK! lol.
We missed some old mates today, who didn't make the start line and to them, well guys and gilrs it really was one out of the box.
Attending riders.
Caseye.
psy-guy.
Crocagator.
Craig JMK.
Sharon JMK.
Voltaire.
Murray.
Trina.
MaxHeadroom.
Daughter of Max.(sorry memory is going fast)
Ixion? was ewe there mate, thought u was coming?
Condolences to those who's machines were going fine yesterday and then didn't want to start this morning, seems that bike has psy's disease, sleepinitis! aye cmoore! op's did I let it out.
Tai the JMK's have sent you a little something, if you can fight your way past ol Croc they're in his pack bag!
had a blast everyone.
Next ride please.
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