The Evil Bastards come out of hiding again

[CookMySock]

Apparently 300,000 evil bastards have signed a petition saying they want the legal protection afforded to adults to not be extended to children any more.

That is NOT what they are saying at all. Taking the alarmist approach and stirring fuck out of it is a stupid way to proceed.

I think it is good idea to NOT smack children, but beginning a campaign here in this manner is absurd.


DB

[RantyDave]

That is NOT what they are saying at all.

Yes it is.

The repeal of section 59 meant that children had the same legal protection against violence as adults do. No more, no less. It wasn't a new law, and it wasn't an "anti-smacking" law. It just removed some retarded loophole. And now everybody's upset.

Whatever. I just like watching the child beaters defend their choice of lifestyle.

Now, excuse me, I have to go tie the slaves up.

Dave

[Trudes]

The bill amendment was never meant to be aimed at the average parent who gives their kid a smack on the bum for sticking a fork in a power socket, it was aimed at the parents who beat the living shit out of their kids who if they live, go on to beat the living shit out of their kids etc etc, it was designed to "break the cycle of violence" and to stop these parents who beat their kids to death from using "discipline" as an excuse for doing so.
Unfortunately it also stops parents from giving a smack on the arse to their little shits that just won't listen to them because they know that dad can't smack them.
The problem as I see it is that there has to be one law for all, you can't walk up to an adult and smack them without either getting one back or getting charged for it, so why should someone be allowed to smack a little kid who is a third their size and not expect some repercussion for it? But also, until that kid is 18, you as a parent is basically responsible for the things that kid does. Hey, I don't know what the answer is, but I think the idea was to stop some of the child abuse in NZ, and wouldn't we all like that to stop?

[flyingcrocodile46]

I only want what's best for the younguns.. and our society

Keep them well fed and happy

[Usarka]

I saw an albatross today.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I don't know what the answer is

Thank you for your whiny arsed opinion


The answer is to put the catholic church in charge of raising all the children... They are well intentioned and completely trustworthy

[P38]

I'd like the law to be changed to let me smack other peoples' kids.

I'm with you idb.

Except I'd like to be able to smack some of them twice!

Any normal balanced person knows that a smack is NOT Abuse.

Were breeding a generation of kids who know no boundries.

Kiwi's are becoming/have become Bloody PC lovin soft cocks.

[RantyDave]

Today with the PC BULLSHIT things have gone crazy. ... Fuck ya have kids trowing concrete off motorway overpasses. Is that demented and fucked up or what.

That is demented and fucked up. It's also quite possibly the result of a society that thinks violence is OK and actually kinda cool.

Oh, come on, someone blame Grand Theft Auto. Isn't it computer games' fault? What about fluoride in water? Declining moral standards? The breakdown of the nuclear family? A reduction in the number of pirates?

Dave

PS: I'm serious about the pirates. It's a big problem.

[Trudes]

Thank you for your shiny arsed opinion

You're welcome.

[RantyDave]

The answer is to put the catholic church in charge of raising all the children... They are well intentioned and completely trustworthy

Oh, this is my favourite. Bling coming!

Dave

[Edbear]

I used to get up at night half an hour before I went to bed...

You had a bed...!!!???

The bill amendment was never meant to be aimed at the average parent who gives their kid a smack on the bum for sticking a fork in a power socket, it was aimed at the parents who beat the living shit out of their kids ...(SNIP)... you as a parent is basically responsible for the things that kid does. Hey, I don't know what the answer is, but I think the idea was to stop some of the child abuse in NZ, and wouldn't we all like that to stop?

The law has always been able to deal with child abuse, and the change in the law hasn't made much difference. What has seemed to make some impression is the publicity about the horrendous cases that have come before the courts.

[awayatc]

I'd like the law to be changed to let me smack other peoples' kids.

Great idea, excellent, and remove age limit as far as defining kids goes as well please.....

What about smacking some parents...?

[RantyDave]

What about smacking some parents...?

Now that *would* help. How about: retarded kid spraypaints neighbourhood -> Dad has to take a week off work to clean it up. Sure as shit wouldn't do it again.

Dave

[CookMySock]

Whatever. I just like watching the child beaters defend their choice of lifestyle.

troll, ignore.

The bill [....] was aimed at the parents who beat the living shit out of their kids who if they live, go on to beat the living shit out of their kids etc etc, it was designed to "break the cycle of violence" and to stop these parents who beat their kids to death from using "discipline" as an excuse for doing so.

Yes !

Unfortunately it also stops parents from giving a smack on the arse to their little shits that just won't listen to them because they know that dad can't smack them.

Watchout! As far as the child is led to believe - there is very little difference! Physical interference of any type reminds them that they can be coerced by physical means, and as adults they will act that out.

you can't walk up to an adult and smack them without either getting one back or getting charged for it, so why should someone be allowed to smack a little kid who is a third their size and not expect some repercussion for it?

Yes, but remember what is really important is what we teach the child - If we teach them "I can hit you to force you to do as I say" then they will grow up believing this, and then act it out.

It will take quite a few generations before this way of thinking is bred out, and for now there will a lot of feelings of inadequacy. We have no choice except to not smack.

I feel for the minority groups in society for which smacking is normal - they have light years to travel before their family begins to believe coercion of any type won't work, because unfortunately for them it does work well.

How long before PD ? Ten mins ? Who is betting ?


DB

[Hinny]

The problem as I see it is that there has to be one law for all, you can't walk up to an adult and smack them without either getting one back or getting charged for it, so why should someone be allowed to smack a little kid who is a third their size and not expect some repercussion for it?

The problem as I see it is that there has to be one law for all, you can't walk up to an adult and smack them without getting charged for it.
No matter how much they thoroughly deserve it.

If anything the law was arse about face.

Adults should know better and so be more responsible and accountable for their actions.
Kids are on L plates and yet people think it is OK for them to 'get the bash' if they do wrong.

That is plainly dopey.