I love Lord Winston

**Hitcher** · 25th June 2008, 09:06

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I hate to say it, But your lacking your god-given dose of healthy scepticism, Big business has been known to lie, especially when untold billions of dollars are involved, yet you seem to have swallowed the entire line so much you will talk in absolutes. And any conflicting view you dismiss as crackpot.

I am not defending "big business". Monsanto is as guilty as many other businesses in stooping to dodgy practices to enhance their competitive advantage.

Any "conflicting view" must be regarded as "crackpot" in the absence of evidence to support it, surely? People who believe the earth to be flat (and there are some who do) are crackpots. People who make stuff up, like nonsense about "adventitious genes", "terminator" genes (an as-yet uninvented technology), genocide of Monarch butterfly populations and such are also challenged by reality.

**Headbanger** · 25th June 2008, 09:15

Right, ask yourself why many current lines of seed don't reproduce? Consider that every single trait of that product is carefully selected, from how to grows, to its nutritional value, taste,shelf-life, etc etc,

Its already done on purpose. Don't swallow the load.

**Hitcher** · 25th June 2008, 09:22

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Right, ask yourself why many current lines of seed don't reproduce?

I know why many current lines of non-GM seeds don't reproduce. The question is, do you?

**Headbanger** · 25th June 2008, 09:30

Whatever, I asked your background, Got a bullshit answer which fits in with your black and white claims, What waste of time, 2 sides sonny boy, to everything. Self-proclaimed experts on everything gets a little tedious. Knock yourself out.

For what its worth I'm comfortable with GM foods and nuclear, But I'm damned If I'd want persons like you to argue the case.

**Goblin** · 25th June 2008, 10:08

Originally Posted by Hitcher

The presence of GM material in any human food has not caused one health issue for anybody who has consumed it.

How can you be so sure of that? Could it be that GM foods have not been around long enough to know for sure that they cause no health issues? What about generations down the line? It might take 100 years to really "know" what the effects of fucking around with the genetic make-up of food really are.
But as long as the multinationals are making billions it doesn't really matter does it.

**forkoil** · 25th June 2008, 10:23

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Whatever, I asked your background, Got a bullshit answer which fits in with your black and white claims, What waste of time, 2 sides sonny boy, to everything. Self-proclaimed experts on everything gets a little tedious. Knock yourself out.

For what its worth I'm comfortable with GM foods and nuclear, But I'm damned If I'd want persons like you to argue the case.

You would have gained more credibility if you answered his question and explained why they cant reproduce. Taking it ad hominem just lost you the argument.

**Headbanger** · 25th June 2008, 10:33

Can't say I'm really interested in an argument that consists of "I swallowed the load,The load is perfect and pure, Everyone else has to swallow the load, everyone that refuses to swallow the load is a crackpot".

If I have lost it, Fine by me.It wasn't that grand to begin with and lacks credibility from the get go.

**MisterD** · 25th June 2008, 10:39

What does Lord Winston know anyway? He's was a supporter of Tony Bliar FFS [/my case]

**jrandom** · 25th June 2008, 12:09

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I swallowed the load,The load is perfect and pure...

That's what she said!

**forkoil** · 25th June 2008, 12:12

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Can't say I'm really interested in an argument that consists of "I swallowed the load,The load is perfect and pure, Everyone else has to swallow the load, everyone that refuses to swallow the load is a crackpot".

If I have lost it, Fine by me.It wasn't that grand to begin with and lacks credibility from the get go.

So why do you take asparin?

**The Pastor** · 25th June 2008, 16:09

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I was once abducted by space aliens. I still have the anal probe as proof.

So thats whats been up you ass all this time. Note I spelt ass the correct way, just for you.

Might want to look at getting that removed.

**Forest** · 25th June 2008, 16:43

Global food prices are starting to spiral upwards.

The world will need to start deploying GE/GM foods in order to meet increasing demand.

**madandy** · 25th June 2008, 17:52

couple a million starving Somali people wouldn't mind consuming some GE/GM vegetables right now!!!!!!!!!!

It sickens me to learn of these peoples plight while the western world full of tree huggers and do-gooders argue about seed being sterile and political issues surrounding some good old cross breeding and gene splicing to make food more betterer.