KB ride etiquette

[gav]

So what if you crash and take someone else out? Whos at fault? So what if youre playing silly buggers and someone else crashes but technically youre not at fault? I had an incident many years ago now, where a group of us were returning from a ride and riding in a bunch at lowish speed, where one of the guys in front of me, suddenly hit his front brakes real hard (RGV250) He thought the guy who had pulled alongside him was going to reach over and hit his kill switch or something I braked as hard as I could but ended up rear ending him and knocking him off and wrecking front end of my bike (buckled front wheel, fairing damage etc) First thing he said was "sorry gav" fair enough I thought, your insured, hopefully your insurance will cover it. Well after a week or so, and probably after some pressure from his parents, he says I'm at fault as I hit him from behind. OK, maybe technically, but surely "dangerous driving" or " reckless use of a motorvehicle" by him would be a good place to start. Ended up in small claims, but both got thrown out and told to each pay for our own bikes and stop being stupid buggers on the road
Just wondering how you'd react/think in similiar situation?

[Wonko]

Gav, IMHO you got off lightly.
Sounds like you were failing to leave enough of a gap from the rider in front. (you said you rear ended him). Would have been your arse in a sling and paying for both bikes.

"dangerous driving" or " reckless use of a motorvehicle"

would have been against you too, not him

If someone crashed and then slid into you then they would be at fault and you would be a third party payout. Ditto if the toppled over onto your bike while parked up etc.

[Ex Cop]

One of the easiest charges to prove, following too close. If nothing else it comes under Careless Driving, (not the actions of a prudent motorist). As the rules say, you must drive at a speed where you are able to stop short.

Just me being a know it all prick, hehehe

Mate of mine Years ago at MOT college ran up the back of an Instructor on the Rimatkuka's, wrote both bikes off. Instructors one was supposed to be for MOT museum. We all thought it was FUNNY. Lucky they never charged him tho.

[gav]

Yeah, I guess :unsure: even though he was playing silly buggers, though morally he knew he caused the accident, legally I guess I was at fault?
Something to keep in mind out there, aye.....

[Draco]

riding in a bunch at lowish speed, where one of the guys in front of me, suddenly hit his front brakes real hard (RGV250) He thought the guy who had pulled alongside him was going to reach over and hit his kill switch or something I braked as hard as I could but ended up rear ending him and knocking him off and wrecking front end of my bike

If i thought some dick was gunna hit my kill switch i'd probably hit the brakes too. Don't see how the accident was his fault myself (but then i wasn't there to witness it).

A classic example of why riding in staggered formation is a good idea in a big bunch. I've seen the same thing avoided on a kb ride when a bunch of 15 or so riders overshot a turn and the first guy decided to haul up just over a blind rise with the others right on his butt Who needs the cardio room at the gym, just ride with kb'rs!!!