Good Old Winston

[Fatt Max]

Dont know about you happy bunnies, but this whole Winston Peters thing is as about as boring as watching Simon Dallow tie his frikken' shoelaces.

Does anyone really care out there? All I would say is that if 'Winnie' is found guilty and is given the arse, he can always whip over to Vegas and give O J Simpson a hand.

I mean, there is a guy with the integrity of Suzanne Paul's crusty undies after a night out down the CBD.........

[Hitcher]

Could somebody please remind me of what exactly Winston is supposed to be guilty of?

[BIGBOSSMAN]

he can always whip over to Vegas and give O J Simpson a hand.

[MisterD]

Could somebody please remind me of what exactly Winston is supposed to be guilty of?

1) Spending his entire political career denoucing his political opponents for being funded by "big business" whilst fiddling his party's books to hide the fact that he was as well.

2) Taking money from fishing interests to shut-down the scampi enquiry.

3) Taking money from racing interests to push for big tax breaks for the industry.

The interesting bit is that it's now fairly obvious that Labour bribed Winston with Owen Glen's money to support their government. The Maori's turned their bribe down...how much did the Greens get?

Banana anyone?

[Skyryder]

And I see Henry and Winstone have now 'changed' their story. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt..............but I'll take a stab in the dark that Winstone will face charges. I won't go as far as to say whether he will be found guilty or not but he's a done turkey one way or the other be it basted or boiled.


Skyyrder

[mowgli]

He's an oxygen thief. End of.

[Patrick]

Could somebody please remind me of what exactly Winston is supposed to be guilty of?

He is a "Politician..."

[RantyDave]

Could somebody please remind me of what exactly Winston is supposed to be guilty of?

Under the electoral finance act, donations over a certain amount ($50k IIRC) need to be declared. This is an invention of our current government who are pissed that the insane bretheren gave so much time and money to the National party (and are relieved it finally bit them in the arse). Winston didn't really feel like declaring that he had taken $100k from Owen Glen and so instructed his lawyer to "solicit" the donation then pass the donation on to a third party, the Spencer family trust. The Spencer family trust then used the money to aid Mr Peters, ironically by paying his legal bills.

So what Winston is trying to pull is the assertion that from a legal standpoint he had nothing to do with it. He didn't solicit the donation and the money was never passed to either him or NZ First. Owen Glen, on the other hand, is quite clear about how Winston did request $100k, remembers his lawyer sending the email saying "send the cash to this escrow account here", and is pissed that the guy he gave $100k to is now calling him a liar.

And, let's face it, even if you're a billionaire expat, are you going to respond to a lawyer coming up to you and saying "would you please donate $100k to a cause I can't tell you about"? Is it more likely that, in a face to face but presumably off the record chat with Winston Peters, he suggests that he is about to be the minister for racing but is short $100k or so and thinks that a wee donationette may see him being perhaps slightly more lax on the industry than he may have been otherwise.

That is why he's in trouble.

Dave

[Tank]

That is why he's in trouble.

Dave

Correction - that's ONE of the reasons he is in trouble.

There is also the serious fraud investigations (also to do with the trust), the other issues about accepting 'gifts' from dodgy businessmen (fights in Las Vegas), the scampi issues ($50k to go away) etc etc etc.

He could actually end up facing jail time from the SFO enquiry (we can only hope).

[slofox]

"would you please donate $100k to a cause I can't tell you about"?

Hmmmmmm do you suppose that would work for me? I could sure use $100k.....

[AllanB]

Could somebody please remind me of what exactly Winston is supposed to be guilty of?

I think it has something to do with the earlier mentioned Suzanne Pauls crusty undies

Apparently she held up a card spelling "NO" but Peters ignored it as he believes that No does not always mean NO and went ahead with his 'donation' onto her undies.

His lawyer claims to have been given the crusty undies but will not say by who.

Suzanne has produced the time and dates pertaining to the offending crusty undies, plus she has a witness who heard Peters thanking her for allowing him to crustify her undies.

The labour party apparently sniffed said undies some months ago and did not expose this to the public.

National has stated that due to the crusty undies incident they will not work with Peters.

And I think Owen Glenn may have been responsible for transporting the undies around New Zealand. But I do understand he has made a sizeable donation of his own to Aunty Helen.

The public is now sick of being treated as if they are something pubic by all parties involved and is favoring National.

Pretty simple really.......

[Swoop]

Under the electoral finance act, donations over a certain amount ($50k IIRC) need to be declared.

Think lower...
$10k is the declaration limit.

[Mom]

Can we make KB an electioneering free zone?

We all have our (hopefully well informed and researched) opinions on how we should vote and who should govern NZ. We talk about this all the time on here. Good debates too, I have even joined in a few of them. My plea here?

No election debates during the course of this campaign.

I am really good friends with people that dont vote the way I do. The reason we remain such good friends is we dont discuss politics around this time of the electoral cycle. Can we just

I reckon Bliss Ninny would have been a better Flame warrior nomination for me

[maybe]

[Trudes]

I reckon Bliss Ninny would have been a better Flame warrior nomination for me

Ask and you shall recieve.....