an interesting discussion I thought.
My view is All L plate drivers be restricted to 1500cc or smaller and non turbo. -Theres plenty of cars under that capacity and they arent exactly slugs either.
Anything they want
Up to 6 cylinder with any cc unmodified
< 2000cc with 4 cyls unmodifed
< 1600cc with 4 cyls umodified
< 1600cc but can modify
Optional accident free period of 1 to 2 years
an interesting discussion I thought.
My view is All L plate drivers be restricted to 1500cc or smaller and non turbo. -Theres plenty of cars under that capacity and they arent exactly slugs either.
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true - but I was a faster driver in my 1300cc 89 corolla than in my 94 MR2.... as I didn;t give a damn if I crashed the corolla - full insurance blah blah - and cheaper to repair.Originally Posted by FROSTY
Simply cos anything can do 80kmph and thats the fastest you can normally go in city conditions.
I think a combination of limited speed a compulsory equivalent of the BRONZ ride right ride safe and limited cc cars would be the best and safest route.
And the gubbermint can collect revenue from all three sources so hopefully it is not an impossible option.
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In britain u can't drive a cage until u r 17, and a full license holder must be with u until you pass your test. This is the only way to go. 15 is too young to be allowed behind the wheel of a murder weapon.
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True, she who must be obeyed has taken my Alfa to some massive speed, won’t tell me how fast, but it’s faster than the 180 limiter on her turbo sub!Originally Posted by FROSTY
Not bad for a 1500!
And like Motu, we have been showing our son the finer point of driving AND riding for years.
First time he drove a manual he was about 9 in a gravel carpark, wheel spun about 50 meters pissing himself laughing the whole way!
He is also responsible for my first and only crash as a pillion!
We have a LONG way to go!
But he will be out there in 2 years and I want him to be safe, and if that means track days and defensive driving with a bit of race and rally training thrown in then that’s what we will do!
He gets the Alfa as a first car, but no radio for the first 6 months, then that gets reviewed.
No cell phone on in the car. He has heard what I have yelled at cage's on phones and doesn’t want to be on the receiving end!
And his favourite bit, he gets a bike first.
I have always said that people should be on two wheels first, and he knows how much I hate hypocrites... Not nice, manipulative little shit!
So I get a shadow on ALL rides in a couple of years...
So do I slow down? Or will he see through that?
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This is stupid.
Some 250cc motorcycles can go over 180kmph.
many of the accidents in the media are around 140kmph. my bike can do that. A 1500cc car can do that.
Restricted licenced drivers should have to have R plates on their so police can pull them over if they have passengers.
They should lose their license if caught with passengers (without companion).
Drivers without a license should have their vehicle impounded for several months.
They ain't gonna speed as much if the've got no buddies in the back set or no wheels.
I think that’s a little over the top - L plate yes but no R plate.Originally Posted by Pathos
Driving without a license and impounded vehicle - not a bad idea.
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