Is this for real?

[98tls]

i'd rather all the money that goes to the maori go into a fuel subsidy. that way every one wins

Cant burn em its not PC.

[The Pastor]

Cant burn em its not PC.

What about at guy fawkes?

[Steam]

Here is a question for Steam.


Have you ever climbed Mt Tarawera?

Yeah, back in the day, in the 1980's. You can't any more eh, because the tribe who owns the land has closed it. That sucks. That kind of thing shouldn't be allowed.
If you are European you aren't allowed to cross onto the Whale Rider beach either. Bad bad. Just angry people using what little power they have I guess.

[Slyer]

They closed it! That's lame as.

[Sanx]

Yeah, back in the day, in the 1980's. You can't any more eh, because the tribe who owns the land has closed it. That sucks. That kind of thing shouldn't be allowed.
If you are European you aren't allowed to cross onto the Whale Rider beach either. Bad bad. Just angry people using what little power they have I guess.

Which is all the justification one needs to cease handing over any land to these parasites.

[Steam]

I'd just like to thank everyone in this thread for being quite civilised. It's nice to have a proper argument but not have it collapse into insults.

[imdying]

The Crown needs to come back and finish the job properly this time.

[-df-]

All I can say is...why are we not getting our blankets and guns back????

[vifferman]

Have you ever climbed Mt Tarawera?

I've ridden up it twice - the first time on a CB175 (well.. OK, I didn't quite get all the way up), and the second time on an MT250, which I had a fine olde time riding around on top.
And I've driven up once in a Land Rover too.

By the way - Mount Maunganui (which is a dumb name, as "maunga" basically means mount anyway) has been called "Muauo" for years now - its original name. For those of you who find that impossible to pronounce, just do what I do: moo like a cow, or call it "The Moan", as that's what it sounds like.

[Lias]

How many Maori do you actually know Steam? Are you just a armchair-activist? Because that is what you sound like. Speaking from personal knowledge and experience, I do not know a single Maori who is resentful and whinges about "stolen land" etc.

I know a few .. Thou in all fairness I know far more who arn't like that. But even alot of the ones who arnt out trying to grab land still harbour alot of resentment to the crown/government.

[Finn]

While I don't think the handing over of Mt Manganui will affect any white folk, I am concerned about a recent article from a University Law Professor that was along the lines of... the settlement process will never end. We've heard stories about a moving due date for all settlements but this chap was saying that the settlements can be challenged using the basis that the negotiators didn't have the right to settle.

Oh boy.

[firefighter]

Shit - the Royals mustn't be able to call themselves English because of their German blood. How many pure Scots are there? Or Irish? On your reasoning do they have a right to call themselves Scots etc?

As for those moaning about 150 years having passed - Maori have been fighting for 150 years for justice. Not their fault it took so long. And as usual the crap about Tainui and the Warriors gets dragged up again. No mention that Tainui is doing really well at the moment - or that countless billions more of taxpayer money has been spent bailing out BNZ, Air NZ, NZ Rail, Think Big.... Or does race only come into play when dodgy business decisions involve Maori.

No matter what I write your going to twist it like a woman........I didn't say they weren't maori, just not full blooded read it again douche. Fkn sick of the whinging shit-just proves that there's so much bloody pom in all of us.....by the way I haven't heard of the royal family claiming land back in Germany......dick.......I never in my post said that anybody can't say theyr'e maori, in fact, fuck it, i'm a maori........iv'e got about a fingernail of it in me somewhere and i'll choose that eh?

[Patrick]

... And as usual the crap about Tainui and the Warriors gets dragged up again. No mention that Tainui is doing really well at the moment -

I see your point but (again) can someone tell me who is benefitting from the land being given back and all the payouts,once again this thread wasnt started as some kind of racial fuck fest i just want to know who benefits cause ive met plenty of Maori in my time and not one has seen a cent.

EJT missed my point... Crap?? Yes the Warriors are...

98tls got it in one. A fat few in Tainui get to see the $$$, not the average Joe, thats for sure......

[sAsLEX]

Yeah, back in the day, in the 1980's. You can't any more eh, because the tribe who owns the land has closed it. That sucks. That kind of thing shouldn't be allowed.
If you are European you aren't allowed to cross onto the Whale Rider beach either. Bad bad. Just angry people using what little power they have I guess.

Another question.

Maori are the only people represented solely in Govt.


So seeing govt. votes and passes law relating around the treaty what way are the Maori seats going to vote? Isn't that a bit dodgy? I mean whats the point of a democracy if some people are more equal than others?

[firefighter]

Yeah, back in the day, in the 1980's. You can't any more eh, because the tribe who owns the land has closed it. That sucks. That kind of thing shouldn't be allowed.
If you are European you aren't allowed to cross onto the Whale Rider beach either. Bad bad. Just angry people using what little power they have I guess.

Sounds pretty bloody RACIST to me...........Maybe I should put a sign up on my lawn saying...........

NO MAORIS!!!!!
NEW ZEALANDERS ONLY!!!!!

Although apparently that would be racist.....funny how it's only racist when one division of our people are being singled out.....but fine for the rest of us to be treated like we aren't New Zealanders.