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    gsxr brake upgrades

    well i put on some clear coated, stainless steel braided, teflon hoses made by Galfer. the effect on my gsxr is barely noticeable except at higher speed. I noticed the exact same thing on my last gsxr. sure maybe at the track it will reduce fade, but in day to day commuting, I would estimate a less than 20% benefit. the lever feels more solid tho, once you pull them on. Once i get out on some backroads & give it a bit i'll report back my honest findings.
    Next the race pads will go on & I'll add to this thread with the result.
    I am expecting(from prior experience) that the pads will make more of a difference than the lines, but we'll see.... at the end of the day any braking improvement is worthwhile, particularly if it reduces my stopping distance, it may just save my ass.
    ..it's another red light nightmare..

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    $500 for a radial master cylinder upgrade.

    That's my first change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    $500 for a radial master cylinder upgrade.

    That's my first change.

    How do you fit radial mount brakes on a swingarm Jimmy?

    You certainly won't be using them on the front will ya....
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    a radial master cylinder upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticno6
    How do you fit radial mount brakes on a swingarm Jimmy?

    You certainly won't be using them on the front will ya....
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    The braided lines won't make much of difference, except to improve feel.

    I fitted them on the VTR, and they made a significant difference, but that was because the OEM lines were too flexible, and very hard to bleed effectively due to a 'hump' in the line above the front mudguard. When I changed the pads as well, that made another noticeable improvement, partly due to different pad material, and partly due to the pistons being right back in the calipers.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Talk to Kerryg about what he did to his GSXR that had spongy brakes... Fitting a ZXR750 Master cyl sorted out the probs... Haven't heard from him for a while tho so he's probably on holiday.

    Sedge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    $500 for a radial master cylinder upgrade.

    That's my first change.
    can pick em up for around $200USD on ebay new with brakelight switch. that's 19x18 Brembo. that is my next move once i get some spare cash...

    I'm purposely doing it in stages so I can gauge the effectiveness of each change so I know for next time.
    ..it's another red light nightmare..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 750Y
    can pick em up for around $200USD on ebay new with brakelight switch. that's 19x18 Brembo. that is my next move once i get some spare cash...

    I'm purposely doing it in stages so I can gauge the effectiveness of each change so I know for next time.
    There shouldn't be a next time from now. All new sports bikes will have radial this and that next year. If Triumph and Buell fit braided lines to all new models, why the hell can't the Japs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    ...If Triumph and Buell fit braided lines to all new models, why the hell can't the Japs.
    that would reduce their burgeoning replacement parts market
    ..it's another red light nightmare..

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    $500 for a radial master cylinder upgrade.

    That's my first change.

    Why is the radial master cylinder more effective than a standard one the same bore diameter?
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    It allows the lever to work the cylinder directly... Jeez I dunno... It's a fashion thing... If you want really good brakes fit a longer lever

    $500 is a bit steep, ZXR ones are about $150

    Sedge.

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    I'm interested in your progress Dave. I popped those EBC HH pads in last service and I still don't have the initial bite back that I got when the bike was brand new (only lasted for a few weeks too).
    Silly suzuki's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldkiwi
    I'm interested in your progress Dave. I popped those EBC HH pads in last service and I still don't have the initial bite back that I got when the bike was brand new (only lasted for a few weeks too).
    Silly suzuki's!
    I can now report that the braided lines feel more solid and give more confidence. The ebc HH 'kit pads'(which are different than the std. EBC HH pads) will go on soon(now I am happy with the effect the lines have had).

    CK: FYI. I ran standard EBC HH on the 750 and they were better than the stockers ESPECIALLY with initial bite. You should DEFINITELY notice an improvement. I went over the handlebars they were that good(& i wasn't).
    maybe the 02 600 had a better stock pad compound than the 00 750, but to me something sounds not right eg brakes bled properly, discs clean(no greasy film etc), pads bedded in 'properly'(not glazed or anything)?
    ..it's another red light nightmare..

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    You should try Ferado brake pad .They are excellent, had them in my GSXR1100 . Also try "Braking " pad's is another www.braking.com These where great to
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    I've put 'hh'pads in my 750 (6 pot calipers)......initially they felt real strong,but seem to have lost their edge rather quickly,at least when cold,they seem to take a lot longer to heat up now and cool a lot quicker than you want for the road.Though once up to temp do stop excellently.....
    I put braided lines on mine too,much firmer/better feel from the lever,but it almost seems to make the brake feel weaker,but only because you loose the spongyness and can actually feel the amount of pressure being applied.
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