Lean angle?

[svr]

On the road, you can see a lot further on right hand bends than left (typically), although on left hand bends you have superelevation (positive camber) for longer.
On the track I like left handers (although bay park sucked) - no idea why.

[slofox]

On the road, you can see a lot further on right hand bends than left (typically), although on left hand bends you have superelevation (positive camber) for longer.
On the track I like left handers (although bay park sucked) - no idea why.

When I raced at Ruapuna, they were farting around with clockwise circuit sometimes - which I HATED. Much preferred it anticlockwise - lefties better than righties again....

[alanzs]

I have been riding for most of my life, since the age of 4, which make it nearly 44 yrs now.
One thing I have realised or noticed is that through the twisties I feel more confident leaning to the left than leaning to the right.
Has anyone else experienced this or am I just being a pussy?

All comments welcome.... (uh-oh)

Al

For whatever it's worth, maybe it's even relevant, I always rode on the opposite side of the road (Raised/rode for ~45 years in the USA) and I feel more comfortable leaning to the right. Leaning and driving on the left still feels different to me... Maybe it's that old dog, new trick thing?

Or, maybe you are just a pussy?

[kiwi cowboy]

Everyone usually prefers to lean one way rather than the other.
I dont know why, i prefer right handers which sucks cos all the south island tracks are anti clockwise eg mostly lefts.
I am left handed if that means anything?

i like right handers to but im right handed

[Grub]

I might measure my chicken strips to see if they are actually any different or if this is just in my head. The left side strip should be narrower.DB

Ahhh now chicken strips are different because they ARE influenced by the road camber. Your right hand strip will almost certainly be narrower.

[Shadows]

On the road, you can see a lot further on right hand bends than left (typically)

Ahhh that'll be it. I knew some bright spark would have the answer for me.

[moT]

less lean angle the better

[moT]

leaning is all to do with the size of your ear drums if one is larger you tend to lean better in the opposite direction. seeing that it would be hard to find out which one is bigger this method works. you can find out which ear drum is bigger by finding out what side you put your clothes on i put my clothes on on my right so i am better cornering on my right hand side. I wanted to find out how to become better to corner on my right and overcome this natural barrier and i found te answer!!! It takes a bit of training but it helps if you do it all for about a week you have to do everything on the opposite side write, eat, dress even sleep and you body will slowly adjust, if you want a quick fix (but you have to be more determined) is hang yourself horisontaly on a pole for about 4 hours your bad cornering side closeist to the ground. this will make you good at cornering on both sides for the rest of the day unfortunatly you will have to repeat the process the next day

I have proved this through lots of testing and scientific experimintation i am currently writeing my thesis on it (with my left hand)

[rwh]

I generally prefer left handers - though this is much more pronounced at low speeds, and particularly at intersections.

I've always associated it with the fact that I get on and off on the left side, and generally put that foot down when I stop - and that's the side the stand is on, which reinforces that. I always get on and off my pushbike on the left too, though, and always have - long before I started motorcycling - and I don't think I've ever had one with a sidestand.

Richard

[moT]

I generally prefer left handers - though this is much more pronounced at low speeds, and particularly at intersections.

I've always associated it with the fact that I get on and off on the left side, and generally put that foot down when I stop - and that's the side the stand is on, which reinforces that. I always get on and off my pushbike on the left too, though, and always have - long before I started motorcycling - and I don't think I've ever had one with a sidestand.

Richard

hense proves my reaserch

[crash harry]

more wear to right of a bike tyre than to left.....road camber....

Not because of road camber - it's because we drive on the left hand side of the road so right-hand corners are longer on average than left-handers, you wear out the right hand side of the tyre first because you do more miles on it. The road camber is way too shallow to account for the angle at which bike tyres wear out.

Some dude on the intarweb did a study so it must be true...

EDIT: And for the record, to get this back on topic, I seem to prefer right handers - I think it's because the countersteering and throttle can all be done with the right hand and the left can just relax and rest my elbow against the tank - in left handers you can't fully relax the right hand because of the throttle.

[El Stevo]

I love right handers, I'm right handed and I put my right arm into the sleeve first when I put my jacket on... coincidence? Maybe or maybe not.

I always remember Ben Bostroms famous quote "I oughta do well on this track, it goes left" so I guess even the best favour 1 way to another...

[Motu]

I always remember Ben Bostroms famous quote "I oughta do well on this track, it goes left" so I guess even the best favour 1 way to another...

That's because he learned his trade on the dirt track - going around left hand corners at over 160kph sideways is tame stuff to him.At track with lots of left hand corners puts him in his element.I've done a bit of that myself,so am pretty happy tossing it in deep on a left hander....I wonder what the speedway riders think about that?

But this thread has made me wonder what I did before that experience,it has obviously coloured my thinking ever since.I remember when we rode British bikes I really liked right hand corners - it was easy to ground them out,and easier to do that on right handers because of the camber.There was nothing like sending up sparks as the non folding footpegs scraped the road - we used to go around and around roundabouts at night making sparks all the way.

[moT]

That's because he learned his trade on the dirt track - going around left hand corners at over 160kph sideways is tame stuff to him.At track with lots of left hand corners puts him in his element.I've done a bit of that myself,so am pretty happy tossing it in deep on a left hander....I wonder what the speedway riders think about that?

But this thread has made me wonder what I did before that experience,it has obviously coloured my thinking ever since.I remember when we rode British bikes I really liked right hand corners - it was easy to ground them out,and easier to do that on right handers because of the camber.There was nothing like sending up sparks as the non folding footpegs scraped the road - we used to go around and around roundabouts at night making sparks all the way.

WOOHAA you are hardcore drifter but dirt bikes dont drift as hard as my vtec! Respect

[slofox]

1. leaning is all to do with the size of your ear drums if one is larger you tend to lean better in the opposite direction.

2. i put my clothes on on my right so i am better cornering on my right hand side.
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3. It takes a bit of training but it helps if you do it all for about a week you have to do everything on the opposite side write, eat, dress even sleep and you body will slowly adjust,

1. Ear drums? You sure its ear drums? I always though it was me balls.....

2. I always put clothes on both sides of my body so I oughta be able to corner either way....

3. On a more serious note, I recently had surgery on my right hand and had that hand in a splint for 10 days, so had to do everything with the "wrong" (for me) hand. What a bugger.....I eventually managed wiping me bum that way round but writing proved to be more challenging, (if less messy).....the dudes at the bank thought I was pissed every time I wrote out a deposit slip......so no, I didn't really get used to it at all......