North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

**fizbin** · 26th April 2010, 19:00

might grace you all with my presence this week!
will have to see how it goes and whether i end up shifting someone on a Wednesday night at 2 hrs notice again!

i should really change my profil bike and stuff eh?

**TOTO** · 26th April 2010, 19:31

someone get him a GN !

**Ironclaw** · 27th April 2010, 07:42

ok, I'll keep it a surprise

won't be for a few weeks though, I'm going to have some fun test riding

**R-Soul** · 27th April 2010, 07:50

Originally Posted by Neon

A-like so (images from Total Control by Lee Parks - go buy it

)

Yes its a pretty good book.

**Ironclaw** · 27th April 2010, 09:33

Originally Posted by TOTO

too much theory hurts my head

Neon and/or I can demonstrate on our 250's, we're both not bad at it

The reason why you don't lean in is all about balance, because you're going so slow there's no force pushing you sideways like what happens at higher speed cornering so if you did lean you would fall over

Toto - the 'X' shaped cones that you've set up a few times are really good for this technique, perhaps we set up a few on wednesday?

**retro asian** · 27th April 2010, 09:50

Originally Posted by Neon

A-like so (images from Total Control by Lee Parks - go buy it

)

Great photos.

"Leaning out" is pretty much a must-do with cruisers (as they weren't designed to corner!!)...this was very the first thing I learnt at NASS...before I could even ride confidently.....thanks Richard for showing me that!

You start by shifting your bum off the seat, in the opposite direction of your low speed turn.....later you can try moving your whole body away from the bike.

Having your body lean in the opposite direction also helps you if you stall the bike, as your inside leg is in a good position to save the bike falling.
Someone should demonstrate this too (as it's hard to describe clearly with only text). I'll be taking my missus out on Wednesday as it's her birthday.

**p.dath** · 27th April 2010, 12:35

I think I need to practice this new technique (for me) as well! So I think that is settled, U-Turn practice this week.

**R-Soul** · 27th April 2010, 12:49

Originally Posted by p.dath

I think I need to practice this new technique (for me) as well! So I think that is settled, U-Turn practice this week.

As I said, you can use the same technique to get around tight corners (on a small course set out like a few weeks back). you just look at the pot you want to exit teh corner instea of back over your shoulder. But you still lean the opposite way - as long as the speed is slow enough.

Once speed builds up and counter steering is required, then you want to lean into the turn. You just have to get used to the speed range when the transition in control technique must occur.

**hctseng** · 28th April 2010, 22:53

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**p.dath** · 29th April 2010, 08:32

That was a great night last night. Doing U-turns (especially to the right) from a stationary start is one of my worst areas. Got lots of tips. Unfortunately I need one more session to really consolidate everything.

**R-Soul** · 29th April 2010, 09:23

Originally Posted by p.dath

That was a great night last night. Doing U-turns (especially to the right) from a stationary start is one of my worst areas. Got lots of tips. Unfortunately I need one more session to really consolidate everything.

Unfortunately I could not make it- we are packing to move house this weekend.

Did you try leaning out and looking over your shoulder? It definitely helped my Uturns..

**p.dath** · 29th April 2010, 12:03

Originally Posted by R Sole

Unfortunately I could not make it- we are packing to move house this weekend.

Did you try leaning out and looking over your shoulder? It definitely helped my Uturns..

I tried, but it didn't work well for me. I find I instinctively want to lean in and give it more gas.

I'm going to give it another go though. I've figured out I need to hold my throttle differently when right turning, and I want to try something different with the foot pegs to see if that helps.

**R-Soul** · 29th April 2010, 12:28

Originally Posted by p.dath

I tried, but it didn't work well for me. I find I instinctively want to lean in and give it more gas.

Well that would work too- but probably would not be as contrllable or get as ssmall a turning circle.

**p.dath** · 29th April 2010, 12:56

Originally Posted by R Sole

Well that would work too- but probably would not be as contrllable or get as ssmall a turning circle.

If I start from a rolling start, I can turn at maximum wheel lock leaning in with a bit of throttle. But I'm terrible from a standing start going immediately to full wheel lock.