North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 06:50

Originally Posted by TOTO

like p.dath said, if you want to follow someone, you have to let them know, coz they can be doing all sorths of things which you shouldn't make your habbit. If you tell the person you would like to follow them, they will have it in mind and give the best possible example.

I have to agree on this one. For instance, the Wednesday ride is easy enough for me that I could take any line I liked through the corners, and because it's easy I don't normally worry about riding the most common line learners should be using.
Now if I knew someone was watching me, I'd make a bigger effort to do everything "properly"
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Originally Posted by TOTO

all good, me and simon usually meet at 6am at cycletreads and leave from there for the art day

I might join you. 6am. Shudder.

**Nim** · 24th February 2010, 07:22

I'll be along tonight at the Noel Leeming Car Park in Albany at 7:30 so I'll look forward to meeting you guys there. My name is Nimma and I'll be the bloke riding a blue Honda VTR250 with the black 1Tonne gear and a brand spanker plastic L plate.

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 09:08

Originally Posted by Nim

I'll be along tonight at the Noel Leeming Car Park in Albany at 7:30 so I'll look forward to meeting you guys there. My name is Nimma and I'll be the bloke riding a blue Honda VTR250 with the black 1Tonne gear and a brand spanker plastic L plate.

Be great to have you along. Note that sometimes if the weather is real good the ride beforehand gets extended, so don't worry if no one shows up right on 7:30pm.

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 09:10

We recently did counter-steering around cones for an exercise in obstacle avoidance. I wonder if for tonight we should extend the exercise by saying to do the exercise with no brakes - aka add throttle control to the mix? And perhaps use some of the natural car park obstacles for cornering, rather than using counter-steering for obstacle avoidance?

Just an idea for consideration.

**retro asian** · 24th February 2010, 10:56

Originally Posted by p.dath

And perhaps use some of the natural car park obstacles for cornering, rather than using counter-steering for obstacle avoidance?

Good idea.
I want to have a go at doing what the guy in this photo is doing...

**Squiggles** · 24th February 2010, 11:12

Originally Posted by p.dath

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You should take a visit to the CSS, reckon you'd find day 1 pretty interesting

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 12:08

Originally Posted by retro asian

Good idea.
I want to have a go at doing what the guy in this photo is doing...

Hehe. Made in jest - but to be serious for a second since this is a training thread, I've been told not to move my weight around by simply shifting my bum like in this photo, but instead move your head so that you are "kissing" the mirror, and let that pull your bum over if needed. The guy in that photo is near vertical.

**retro asian** · 24th February 2010, 12:48

Originally Posted by p.dath

Hehe. Made in jest - but to be serious for a second since this is a training thread, I've been told not to move my weight around by simply shifting my bum like in this photo, but instead move your head so that you are "kissing" the mirror, and let that pull your bum over if needed. The guy in that photo is near vertical.

Yeah that's true for sports bikes.... I ride a cruiser, I'm special

**Devil** · 24th February 2010, 13:37

Originally Posted by p.dath

... The guy in that photo is near vertical.

That guy is also on a harley...

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 13:48

Originally Posted by retro asian

Yeah that's true for sports bikes.... I ride a cruiser, I'm special

I suspect the mirror kissing technique still applies ... but I shall defer to those with more knowledge. I have no experience on a cruiser.

**BoristheBiter** · 24th February 2010, 14:19

Originally Posted by p.dath

I suspect the mirror kissing technique still applies ... but I shall defer to those with more knowledge. I have no experience on a cruiser.

look at photos of the SBK or MotoGP and they do just that but it just looks diferent on a cruiser because of the seated position.

**Cr1MiNaL** · 24th February 2010, 14:44

Originally Posted by p.dath

I have to agree on this one. For instance, the Wednesday ride is easy enough for me that I could take any line I liked through the corners, and because it's easy I don't normally worry about riding the most common line learners should be using.
Now if I knew someone was watching me, I'd make a bigger effort to do everything "properly"

I think you should be taking the best line through the corner irrespective of whether someone is watching you or not. Then when you get better and start riding 'fast' you will not have to think about your lines. One less thing to think about at speed is one less reason to crash.

Originally Posted by p.dath

Hehe. Made in jest - but to be serious for a second since this is a training thread, I've been told not to move my weight around by simply shifting my bum like in this photo, but instead move your head so that you are "kissing" the mirror, and let that pull your bum over if needed. The guy in that photo is near vertical.

He is on what is supposed to be a cruiser. The same rules do not apply. Have you seen a motard move through the corners or the way you actually lean in the opposite direction to the turn and stick your leg out, or a dirt bike? The bikes are set up differently and have different geometry hence the difference. Learning to ride a bike correctly is not a generic art. Hence one on one coaching is the only way to be technically correct in all aspects of your riding.

Originally Posted by Devil

That guy is also on a harley...

What he said.

**p.dath** · 24th February 2010, 14:50

Originally Posted by Cr1MiNaL

He is on what is supposed to be a cruiser. The same rules do not apply. Have you seen a motard move through the corners or the way you actually lean in the opposite direction to the turn and stick your leg out, or a dirt bike?

I have a plan to do some practice out at Sandspit off road to learn some more skills to complement my road riding. Alas next month is a tad busy (both ART and RRRS are on), but perhaps the next month I'll higher a bike up there and give it a ago.

**Cr1MiNaL** · 24th February 2010, 14:57

p-dath I am only taking the trouble to correct your posts because this is a learner thread; and as such incorrect information on here could potentially be dangerous. You do not kiss the mirrors before shifting your bum / weight off the seat. You shift your bum and weight off the seat first, well before the corner as you are braking for the corner. On entry you slowly lean towards the mirrors and at about the apex you should be kissing the mirror. When you roll on the throttle as you see the exit and are leaving the apex you gradually shift your weight back to the center of the bike. If you watch Moto-Gp or WSBK or even any of the racers on this forum you will see exactly what i mean. Learners pls don't take my word for gospel either find a way that suits you as you are unique.