2008 MV Agusta F4 1078

[nodrog:Me]

When it comes to comparisons between bikes, i reckon dry weight is alot more usefull

so if you ordered a dial-a-bride who said she was 45kg's, and she turns up on your doorstep tipping the scales at 90kg's, and she said "oh that was my weight, before i ingested a bakery" that would be acceptable, and would in no way impeed her performance?

[imdying]

so if you ordered a dial-a-bride who said she was 45kg's, and she turns up on your doorstep tipping the scales at 90kg's, and she said "oh that was my weight, before i ingested a bakery" that would be acceptable, and would in no way impeed her performance?

That's a bit whack... they do tell you it's a dry weight... so if that hoe was advertised at '45kg before ingesting a bakery', then that'd be fine.

[Big Dave]

Just kidding. Dig at the banners not the poster.

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[nodrog:Me]

That's a bit whack... they do tell you it's a dry weight... so if that hoe was advertised at '45kg before ingesting a bakery', then that'd be fine.

so if you had 2 skinny bitches of equal performance, and one could take on board more pies than the other, who would win a race?

[Big Dave]

Imported American Basketball players have been known to shrink 5 inches in the plane.

[nodrog:Me]

Imported American Basketball players have been known to shrink 5 inches in the plane.

well its prety cold at altitude.

[Drew]

What teh fuck, who actually cares buys a bike on figures alone?


The bike does look like all the others, and that looks good. How porky it is wouldn't bother me so long as I liked how it rode and went. (Working on the assumption that I had money...which I dont...so why post here...)

Fuck it I'm off..

[imdying]

so if you had 2 skinny bitches of equal performance, and one could take on board more pies than the other, who would win a race?

Your analogies don't make any sense whatsoever. I do have a question for you though...

09 CBR1000 weighs 200kg with 20 litres of fuel
09 GSXR1000 weighs 200kg with 20 litres of fuel

To make their bike lighter than the competition, Suzuki takes 5 litres out of the tank size... Ok, it's lighter now, but are we better off?

Dry weight is always the best way to measure a bike.... strip that bitch right back to the bare minimum... take the air out of the tyres for all I care. At least that's a level playing field (as every manufacturer can take the same steps). In the end, so long as they're all measured in the same fashion (as the Japs all do from what I understand), then they're relative measurements and the actual value is essentially irrelevant.

[imdying]

What teh fuck, who actually cares buys a bike on figures alone?


The bike does look like all the others, and that looks good. How porky it is wouldn't bother me so long as I liked how it rode and went. (Working on the assumption that I had money...which I dont...so why post here...)

Fooken eh.

[Big Dave]

What if the bike has a 90 litre fuel tank?

[imdying]

What if the bike has a 90 litre fuel tank?

You've had too much shiny green bling for now... you'll keep though


/edit: I do find it a bit strange that here's a bike that's disgustingly fast... it'll blow the doors off most comers, and is designed to be a work of art when it's not being ridden... and people are worried about what it weighs??? It weighs enough to do a genuine 300km/hr, that's how much it weighs

[Drew]

Most of the others posting dont have the cash either, so I'll carry on.

It is nothing more, than a marketing tool to publish the figures of the bike. Another tool to get us, (the punters) to ride them. Then we buy whatever we liked the most and got the best deal for.

Argueing the relevence of said figures is futile.

[Drew]

It weighs enough to do a genuine 300km/hr, that's how much it weighs

Are you implying that other bikes dont do a genuine 300kph?

[nodrog:Me]

Your analogies don't make any sense whatsoever. I do have a question for you though...

09 CBR1000 weighs 200kg with 20 litres of fuel
09 GSXR1000 weighs 200kg with 20 litres of fuel

To make their bike lighter than the competition, Suzuki takes 5 litres out of the tank size... Ok, it's lighter now, but are we better off?

Dry weight is always the best way to measure a bike.... strip that bitch right back to the bare minimum... take the air out of the tyres for all I care. At least that's a level playing field (as every manufacturer can take the same steps). In the end, so long as they're all measured in the same fashion (as the Japs all do from what I understand), then they're relative measurements and the actual value is essentially irrelevant.

im not talking about fuel, im talking about the shit that wont change, ie batteries, oil capacity etc. if both bikes start dry at the same weight and performance, then one holds an extra 10 kilos of fluids (not including fuel), its pretty obvious which one you would choose if you wanted maximum velocity.

[imdying]

Are you implying that other bikes dont do a genuine 300kph?

No no, I'm just saying that it's so freakin fast that who gives a crap about a few kgs... As MVNut says, you want a lighter one, sure, they'll hook you up with a lighter one. Try that with your Suzuki dealer

im not talking about fuel, im talking about the shit that wont change, ie batteries, oil capacity etc. if both bikes start dry at the same weight and performance, then one holds an extra 10 kilos of fluids (not including fuel), its pretty obvious which one you would choose if you wanted maximum velocity.

So they fit smaller batteries which makes them less reliable and shorter living. So they use less oil capacity which makes them less reliable and shorter living... etc etc etc... If you use a wet weight, that's what they'll do. Anywhere you've got fluids (cooling, fuel, oil, fork oil) more is almost always better... anywhere you've got oil, a reduction in capacity is a reduction in capacity for cooling/longevity etc.

Dry weight is a far better (for us) way to compare them.