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    When you want to buy a nice pie, who has made it?

    I think you'll find many quality pies baked by immigrants from S.E. Asia.

    What about beer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua View Post
    Example please.
    Just ask anyone form Birmingham in the UK for example - the accent is now more like Apu from the Simpsons and they all want the law bent to suit their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    I thought God save the Queen was our motto...
    ??!!??

    By the Sex Pistols?

    And I certainly hope you don't mean 'Anthem'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    * triumph, etc...
    Yeah rock on !!!!! when are you crashi.. i mean buying one random ?
    It's all good man i know this guy who converted to muslim, all ya need do is have a sex change and no one will know its you, you can wear a Veil, Viel, thing that covers ya face ! Awwww hehe squashes them thoughts of a gimp mask, lol wouldn't suit ya man not at all ! Well not if ya riding a Triumph anyway !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    True but that is the "Law"...if a Muslim breaks the Laws of NZ they get punished...
    True.

    But just wait, we already have 'Maori Drivers Licences'

    Next the 'other' types will want laws bent to suit THIER agendas - refusing to expose face for licence check yadda yadda yadda....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    ... they all want the law bent to suit their agenda.
    Well, if they're a taxpaying majority, I guess that's what they'll get, ain't it?

    'scalled 'democracy', and it's funny how it's such a bastard trying to get grumpy old white men to realise that its definition doesn't include "... but only if you're this colour and speak with this accent".
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    I have to agree with jrandom in this. Sounds like someone didn't think too much before composing the 'Ode to nationalism' which was quoted in the first post.

    Come on, let's be real here - you'd get further in NZ speaking only Spanish than you would speaking only Maori.

    Country founded on the motto of 'in god we trust'? I don't think you'll find any reference to this fact in the treaty of Waitangi.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    I thought our national motto was "She'll be 'right"?
    I think that is closer...

    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Christianity has done just as much harm throughout history as Islam has. Probably more. Attempting to paint any religion as integral to the fabric of our society is offensive.
    You'd hope Christianity would have done a whole lot more harm than Islam - considering they got a 600 year head start they would have had to be less efficient than the NZ bureaucrazy in order to slip behind on that account.

    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Lets start with driving lessons
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    New Zealand is a wonderful place no doubt. But I do think that there are issues which would be more fruitful to pursue than immigrant issues. Considering the current brain drain it would not be a good idea to shut the doors to skilled migrants - or to do anything to discourage them from going here.
    Unlike another place I could think of, NZ does not at all appear to have an issue with a group of immigrants who openly despise, disrespect and work against some the fundamental values (sexual equality and freedom of speech and religion) upon which the society has been founded.
    It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Well, if they're a taxpaying majority, I guess that's what they'll get, ain't it?

    'scalled 'democracy', and it's funny how it's such a bastard trying to get grumpy old white men to realise that its definition doesn't include "... but only if you're this colour and speak with this accent".
    Funny how somebody can go to another country, be a minoriy and still whinge and want laws etc changed to suit himself - you would think they would check and see if the country 'suited' him before going there eh?

    And just because you happen to be a member of a major religion/belief doesn't automaticaly make you a 'majority' in your chosen country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    600 year head start...
    Yeah, but Christianity wasted 300 or so of those years as a persecuted minority religion before being adopted as a convenient population-control mechanism by the failing Roman Empire.

    Islam was effectively a state religion backed by force of arms right from the word go.

    Regardless of the above, the separation of church and state is a vital principle of sound and rational government, which fact was recognised by the American founding fathers, and has been conveniently forgotten by the sort of people who compose the misspelled nonsense in this thread's OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Funny how somebody can go to another country, be a minoriy and still whinge and want laws etc changed to suit himself...
    Once someone's a citizen of a country, they're a citizen of that country, full stop, whether by birth or by adoption. Right?

    And all citizens of a democratic state should be able to lobby their legislators for laws that suit them.

    Right, wrong, black, white or Apu don't enter into it. The loudest and/or most persuasive voice wins the day. Them as don't like the nature of the laws being passed obviously just need to learn to be louder or more persuasive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Once someone's a citizen of a country, they're a citizen of that country, full stop, whether by birth or by adoption. Right?

    And all citizens of a democratic state should be able to lobby their legislators for laws that suit them.

    Right, wrong, black, white or Apu don't enter into it. The loudest and/or most persuasive voice wins the day. Them as don't like the nature of the laws being passed obviously just need to learn to be louder or more persuasive.

    So why come here - if you're leaving your own country ( which must be SO good 'cos you're leaving I guess) wouldn't you pick a country that was already kitted up to suit your needs??

    (I see now UK Police dogs are being fitted with bootees - NOT to save them from cuts etc but because Muslim see dogs as unclean and so to appease said Muslims the dogs get fitted with boots when they go onto Muslim property, bloody spare me!:slap
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Once someone's a citizen of a country, they're a citizen of that country, full stop, whether by birth or by adoption. Right?

    And all citizens of a democratic state should be able to lobby their legislators for laws that suit them.
    No problem with that at all old bean - I DO have a problem when they're a minority who can't get their own way and throw a tizzy-fit until a soft-cock Gov't bows and changes things without a majority vote. (I guess I'd better watch it here - our loser "Gov't' operates like that all the time.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    (I see now UK Police dogs are being fitted with bootees...
    I'll definitely grant that the UK appears to have gone PC-mad, with the Muslims over there getting ridiculously uppity with their precious demands.

    Still, if the rest of the population can't organise themselves a political movement that fixes those issues, they deserve to be laughed at by the burkha-wearers.

    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    soft-cock Gov't bows and changes things without a majority vote.
    Well, yes, that's definitely a problem. Here's hoping for the sake of the Poms that the Tories fix the more egregiously ridiculous New Labour cockups.

    I'd say we've avoided anything of that extent here, though. Thank goodness. But this is why we vote gubmints out - too many years in office, and an administration tends to forget where its mandate comes from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Right, wrong, black, white or Apu don't enter into it. The loudest and/or most persuasive voice wins the day. Them as don't like the nature of the laws being passed obviously just need to learn to be louder or more persuasive.
    Nice sentiment but the reality of Birmingham or Bradford is that localised majorities (read: self-created ghettos) start wanting to create rules at odds with 1) the wishes of the greater national majority and 2) the traditions of the country that was so attractive to emigrate to in the first place.

    In those situations, it is perfectly understandable that right-thinking (in both senses) people might consider that the piss is being taken.
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