New Zealand - The right to leave our country

**MIXONE** · 8th July 2008, 15:53

All I know is that I'm sick of feeling guilty for being white in NZ.At times it seems my ancestors stole everything,killed everyone and now I have to pay for it forever.

**sinfull** · 8th July 2008, 15:58

Originally Posted by MIXONE

All I know is that I'm sick of feeling guilty for being white in NZ.At times it seems my ancestors stole everything,killed everyone and now I have to pay for it forever.

You bastard !!!!!!!!

**alanzs** · 8th July 2008, 16:01

Originally Posted by MIXONE

All I know is that I'm sick of feeling guilty for being white in NZ.At times it seems my ancestors stole everything,killed everyone and now I have to pay for it forever.

Let it go, us white folks feel that every where in the world where we have conquered those with tanner skin. If we weren't better, why'd they let us win? They never have an answer for that one, do they?

In the end, they will win though, as darker pigmentation is a dominant gene, therefore making white skin more and more uncommon. We could choose to not interbreed with them, but frankly, some tan skinned chicks are much hotter than the average white chick and look at what happened to the Brits in their attempt to interbreed exclusively among themselves; all the bad teeth and sallow complexions. There's just no winning in the long run...

I choose not to wear sunscreen, screw them!

**98tls** · 8th July 2008, 16:03

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

In the whole scheme of things I suspect this potential issue would be either a minor threat and / or of little real impact.

Agreed by why cant they just shut the fuck up and get on with living here,what they did in towel head land has no relevance here,i can only asume they thought it looked pretty good from afar so if they get here and dont like it piss off instead wanting this and wanting that blah blah blah.We are going down the same path England has re pc bullshit ie rubbish like the childrens nursery rhyme "3 little pigs" is out as it offends etc.A normal person would laugh at there demands but this whole pc thing is got so out of hand that its taken seriously.

:slap:Madness.

**98tls** · 8th July 2008, 16:06

Originally Posted by MIXONE

All I know is that I'm sick of feeling guilty for being white in NZ.At times it seems my ancestors stole everything,killed everyone and now I have to pay for it forever.

They did, where they went wrong was stopping.

**Stormer** · 8th July 2008, 16:18

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Name two such countries.

I did, about 3 pages back.

**SPman** · 8th July 2008, 17:36

Originally Posted by MIXONE

All I know is that I'm sick of feeling guilty for being white in NZ.At times it seems my ancestors stole everything,killed everyone and now I have to pay for it forever.

Who's guilty? I certainly don't feel guilty. Did my Norse ancestors feel guilty when they invaded the North of England? Probably not - too busy looting and pillaging and complaining about Saxons and Britons and Picts, before putting them all to the sword...and axe...and...whatever! I'm a 5th generation "born in NZ" european descent - as far as I'm concerned, I'm a New Zealander as much as any Maori, with just as much feel for the land and sea. Hell - I even vote maori party!!! You're only guilty if you let yourself feel guilty, and I just don't buy into it! Treat everyone as an equal, including new immigrants wherever they come from. Make them feel welcome into society and they have less reason to cling to habits and customs from their past.

**Badjelly** · 8th July 2008, 17:46

Originally Posted by SPman

Who's guilty? I certainly don't feel guilty. Did my Norse ancestors feel guilty when they invaded the North of England? Probably not - too busy looting and pillaging and complaining about Saxons and Britons and Picts, before putting them all to the sword...and axe...and...whatever! I'm a 5th generation "born in NZ" european descent - as far as I'm concerned, I'm a New Zealander as much as any Maori, with just as much feel for the land and sea. Hell - I even vote maori party!!! You're only guilty if you let yourself feel guilty, and I just don't buy into it! Treat everyone as an equal, including new immigrants wherever they come from. Make them feel welcome into society and they have less reason to cling to habits and customs from their past.

+1. Bling sent.

**jimevo** · 8th July 2008, 17:49

Been living in the U.S. as an new immirgrant for the past 2 years and I must say there is no such issue as people ask me to salute the U.S. flag or speak "American"... As matter of fact, they love the change in perspectives and no one has yet to tell me that it's my right to leave the country.

**Badjelly** · 8th July 2008, 17:56

Originally Posted by firefighter

"In God we trust "is our national Motto.

YOU asked to be here.

I know it's been said before in this thread, but...

"In God we trust" isn't our national motto.
Regardless, it's certainly not my motto
Er no, I didn't ask to be born here, though it is my choice to be here now.

That's what irritates me about this "love it or leave it" stuff. The country & culture I'm being asked to love isn't the country & culture I do love.

**CB ARGH** · 8th July 2008, 18:05

HOLY FUCK!

That's insane how they can do that (with the muslim women). I also get pissed off at how the asian community say that they're not safe, dude, we're all equal, and if you've got a problem with the way our country runs, then you need to:

A) Harden the FUCK up
B) Get a life
C) Go back to your home town

No offense, not being racist, asians are very nice people, especially if they are females and between the age of 15-25

**rachprice** · 8th July 2008, 18:06

NZ has one of the highest populations of people with an atheist/agnostic religious stance. I really dont think god is that much a part of our culture.
I would have thought that post about being proud to be white might have been a bit more inflammatory. I just think that in able to have disadvantaged populations (such as maori/african american) become 'equal' (as everyone claims to want) you cant just treat everyone as equal because thats only going to maintain the disparity. You need extra/specific programs or rights to allow the inequality to be lessened.

**98tls** · 8th July 2008, 18:16

Originally Posted by rachprice

NZ has one of the highest populations of people with an atheist/agnostic religious stance. I really dont think god is that much a part of our culture.
I would have thought that post about being proud to be white might have been a bit more inflammatory. I just think that in able to have disadvantaged populations (such as maori/african american) become 'equal' (as everyone claims to want) you cant just treat everyone as equal because thats only going to maintain the disparity. You need extra/specific programs or rights to allow the inequality to be lessened.

Everyone that lives here has the right to go to school and get a job when there done,what else do they need?

**rachprice** · 8th July 2008, 18:21

Oh yeah i just meant in terms of education/health etc. It wasnt an attack just a statement. eg specific health initiatives aimed at maori/PI because they have a higher rate, or increased scholarships for maori/PI to attend university because they are generally from the lower socioeconomic bracket